re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread

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The inverse is if I'm right, I hold receipts like few others in human history

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No one hold receipts like me buddy lol. And I like to let everyone know I’m usually 90% right about what I post.

A lot of these proposed trades don’t take future salary into consideration enough. We need to clear enough salary to get a new 5 and to pay Trey as well. So if we move BI and Larry to get Trae, we are essentially forced to move CJ for a 5 due to not having many other options for matching salary.

The biggest hurdle with trading with ATL is that they are trying to cut salary too. I’m having trouble imagining any trade with them where they aren’t dumping Capela too, which would almost have to be to a 3rd team.

More and more, I’m beginning to believe we are going to almost be forced to dump CJ this offseason as well.

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If Trae is here there is no reason for CJ.

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I think it’s less about that and more about, if Trae is here then we HAVE to get a defensive 5. We won’t have any other salary to really use other than CJ

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A lot of these proposed trades don’t take future salary into consideration enough. We need to clear enough salary to get a new 5 and to pay Trey as well. So if we move BI and Larry to get Trae, we are essentially forced to move CJ for a 5 due to not having many other options for matching salary.

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Not really. We could make all those things happen with BI, Nance and Dyson.

Cavs: Capella, Dyson
Hawks: Ingram, Nance, Niang, picks
Pels: Trae, Allen

Salary works for that, but we would have to commit to being a taxpayer team

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Not really. We could make all those things happen with BI, Nance and Dyson.

Cavs: Capella, Dyson
Hawks: Ingram, Nance, Niang, picks
Pels: Trae, Allen

Salary works for that, but we would have to commit to being a taxpayer team

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If we did that, in 24-25, we’d owe $162m and be $9m under the tax line with only 10 rostered players, and that’s with just picking up everyone’s team options including Trey. Essentially any kind of extension for Trey puts us well into the tax.

25-26, we’d owe $160 million to only 8 rostered players and still have to sign Trey.

It’s not just “committing to being a tax team”, it’s not realistic for any team to operate that way, especially with the new penalties.

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I think it’s less about that and more about, if Trae is here then we HAVE to get a defensive 5.

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No it means if we have Trae, Herb needs to be the starting 2, and Trey needs to be the starting 3.
Yes we need the defensive 5 still, but adding Trae means Herb/Trey have to start.
And if they start, CJ isnt' coming off the bench. Hawkins isn't CJ, nor do i expect him to be, but i'd love to give him the 6th man scoring role and let him shoot the ball to replace CJ's shooting. He doens't need to score 20 a game. Trae and Zion are the scorers and everyone else is just supporting.

Moving CJ to Orlando for some cap relief and getting WCJ or Isaac would be the right move.


The ideal trade is
Hawks get BI and 3 1sts from us

Magic get CJ

Nets get Cole Anthony and JRE/EJ

Pels get Trae, S&T of Claxton, Isaac

Trae/Jose
Herb/Dyson/Hawkins
Trey/Naji/Ryan
Zion/Isaac
Claxton/Larry
Would have enough left to sign a minimum and draft at #21 to get it to 14 and under the tax.
I'd still draft a 5 and hope he can be a player and you can either trade Larry at the deadline or just let him go in the offseason. That plus the cap bump lets you resign Trey/Isaac/Jose with about $50M to stay under the tax, more if you let someone like Naji go.

As we've seen in these playoffs, who your best 7 are what matters.
You basically have your main perimeter scorer, 3-4 wing players and 3 PF/C type players that are going to give you meaningful playoff minutes. The rest of the roster is just there to help in the regular season, so they might as well be minimum or rookie scale players.

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Would have enough left to sign a minimum and draft at #21 to get it to 14 and under the tax. I'd still draft a 5 and hope he can be a player and you can either trade Larry at the deadline or just let him go in the offseason. That plus the cap bump lets you resign Trey/Isaac/Jose with about $50M to stay under the tax, more if you let someone like Naji go.

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How much are you paying Claxton in this scenario? We’d be committed to around $111m 25-26 in this scenario not counting Claxton

I think if CJ goes to the Magic he's worth one of Isaac or Anthony and a 1st at a minimum.

Trades i've seen for Garland is Isaac/Anthony/2 1sts. CJ is coming off a monster year shooting the ball, and doesn't look like he's slowing down.

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Trae/Jose
Herb/Dyson/Hawkins
Trey/Naji/Ryan
Zion/Isaac
Claxton/Larry

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I think you're being to optimistic with Claxton at $17 million, but I kind of like this roster. You could go all offense Trae/Hawk/Ryan/Zion/Trey or all defense Jose/Herb/Dyson/Isaac/Claxton or anywhere in between. Good luck stopping or scoring on those lineups.

I do worry Willie would be Willie and play too much defense or lean on Naji too much thinking that fixes the lack of offense. I'd want to maybe turn Naji into a better 3/4 shooter, and it feels like you need a backup 7 footer like Drummond because you don't have anyone to deal with the legit centers.