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re: The Official NBA Free Agency/Offseason Thread Update: MITCHELL TO CLE

Posted on 6/27/22 at 10:57 am to
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 10:57 am to
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40ish


lol. Not even close.

16.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 10:59 am to
Kyrie asked if he wants to be a Net still

Wouldn’t answer LINK
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 11:00 am to
the 16 is irving/durant/harden together.
irving & durant played 44 together

oh shite, sorry i missed the harden note earlier in the question
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Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 11:01 am to
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the 16 is irving/durant/harden together.


That's what was asked.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 11:05 am to
Not gonna lie though that its kinda hilarious that Ben Simmons gets shipped to the Nets and that team implodes before he even sees the court
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 11:09 am to
sam amick (athletic)
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“There are sources very close to the situation who strongly believe Irving is trying to make his way to the Lakers.”
Posted by TigerinATL
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 11:09 am to
This really seems like a Heat come out of nowhere opportunity. Trade everything besides Jimmy & Bam for Kyrie and KD. And I mean everything a big 4 and 11 vet minimums.

The Heat do it because if all 4 of their guys actually are on the court at the same time in the playoffs, does it matter who the 5th guy is?

The Nets do it because you get a decent group of young players, but mostly because Miami would have a pretty limited window so those unprotected picks and swaps 4+ years out would be gold.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 11:11 am to
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“There are sources very close to the situation who strongly believe Irving is trying to make his way to the Lakers.”


He can try to make his way anywhere, it isn't happening.

The nets are better off letting him go than taking Westbrook.
Posted by Mad Scientist26
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 11:13 am to
I would love Kyrie on the Lakers. That’s almost as good as Westbrook. He and AD would be a perfect pair with an older LeBron. Those two would give LeBron so many gray hairs with their BS and taken games off. I would love to see them sign long term.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 11:14 am to
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This really seems like a Heat come out of nowhere opportunity. Trade everything besides Jimmy & Bam for Kyrie and KD. And I mean everything a big 4 and 11 vet minimums.


I tried and come up WAYYYYYYYYYY short salary wise. Don't see how the heat can do it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 11:15 am to
This is probably going to officially end the "3 superstar" superteam model. We're going back to 2 and change, now.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 11:15 am to
Or Kyrie actually decides to lock in, relative to him, and he's good for 2-3 years, which kills our trade value.

I don't care about the Lakers 4 years from now. I care about them for the next 3 years and the most likely outcome of Kyrie going to them isn't the best for us.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 11:18 am to
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I tried and come up WAYYYYYYYYYY short salary wise. Don't see how the heat can do it.


You'd have to include some S&Ts of guys like Tucker and Oladipo, and they could go to 3rd teams if the Nets don't want them.
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 11:22 am to
Kyrie and “Heat culture” or whatever they call it would be gold.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 11:23 am to
I'm still coming up short.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 11:23 am to
how could any team want to sign Kyrie to a long term deal, while also giving up assets to do so?

Only the Lakers or Knicks would be so stupid.



and there's no reason to keep Jaxson. We aren't going to resign him. He isn't going to be a sought after RFA, so having the right to match offers next offseason isn't a big deal to anyone wanting to grab him now or at the deadline. I seriously doubt he can do enough in the next few months to change that.
If there's a team out there that is interested in his services for this year and possibly aid in his development, then let em have him.

there are teams out there with TPE's that could take him, Pacers being one that i would think would like him, although they dont' really have anything i'd expect back.


a simple Graham/Jax for Harrison Barnes works perfectly. Considering what Jerami Grant went for, i doubt we need to add anything more than maybe a 2nd or two to make that work. But even something like that still leaves us kind of thin down low. I know Barnes is a 4, but he's not a big 4 like Nance and Jax are.


I also think it would be worth a call to Brooklyn to see if they would be interested in a S&T with Blake Griffin. I'd have no problem giving him a Temple like deal 2/$10M with the 2nd year a team option. He'd be a nice backup to Zion, as well as a good veteran leader for the team. That would allow Liddell a chance to play as well as Trey at the 4 b/c you can expect Blake to miss games.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 11:26 am to
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ESPN Sources: Outside of the Lakers, there are currently no known teams planning pursuit of sign-and-trades for Nets G Kyrie Irving. No sign-and-trades can be formally discussed until after 6 PM on Thursday. Brooklyn isn't believed to have interest in available Lakers packages.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 11:26 am to
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He can try to make his way anywhere, it isn't happening.

The nets are better off letting him go than taking Westbrook.

The only way he's making it to the Lakers is if he's willing to sign for the tax payer MLE.

He's a crazy person, so I wouldn't put it past him.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 11:32 am to
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We aren't going to resign him. He isn't going to be a sought after RFA,

If he's not, then we could be interested if the price is lowered.

Posted by Pelefraan 1
Member since Jan 2018
6706 posts
Posted on 6/27/22 at 11:32 am to
Lakers get: Kyrie and Ben Simmons

Hornets get: Westbrook

Nets get: AD and Hayward
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