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The character factor for the Pelicans draft picks
Posted on 5/19/22 at 9:51 pm
Posted on 5/19/22 at 9:51 pm
I do not profess to be a maven when it comes to the NBA and especially the draft. But I have really taken to this team, so I am asking question that I cannot answer:
Griffen and the rest of the Pels FO have frequently stated that they believe it is important to draft players with the character they want. Of the possible targets at #8, are there any that you believe would not fit because of their character? For example, I have seen a few comments that the Pels should not draft a player whose agency is Klutch. Is that a red flag for the Pels FO? Does anyone think that a certain potential prospect is a bad fit because of character? If so, who would that be and why? Thanks.
Griffen and the rest of the Pels FO have frequently stated that they believe it is important to draft players with the character they want. Of the possible targets at #8, are there any that you believe would not fit because of their character? For example, I have seen a few comments that the Pels should not draft a player whose agency is Klutch. Is that a red flag for the Pels FO? Does anyone think that a certain potential prospect is a bad fit because of character? If so, who would that be and why? Thanks.
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 10:03 pm to The LGBM
They definitely want good locker room guys. Guys that work hard and are fun loving and are good teammates. No “me” guys or assholes.
There are…rumors about Shaedon Sharpe and his character but no confirmation.
Don’t know enough about most of these guys to say.
There are…rumors about Shaedon Sharpe and his character but no confirmation.
Don’t know enough about most of these guys to say.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 10:09 pm to Fun Bunch
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There are…rumors about Shaedon Sharpe and his character but no confirmation.
If it's from UK people being mad he didn't suit for them this year and isn't coming back for next year that's bs.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 10:12 pm to Fun Bunch
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No “me” guys or assholes.
I think it’s as simple as that
no assholes
Posted on 5/19/22 at 10:14 pm to saintsfan22
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that's bs.
I’m not saying it’s true or not, only that things are out there.
There are a ton of questions regarding he and his HS as well
Posted on 5/19/22 at 10:16 pm to Fun Bunch
doesn’t matter he will go way before 8
Posted on 5/19/22 at 10:25 pm to cgrand
Yep, he likely goes 4 or 5.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 10:30 pm to Fun Bunch
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There are a ton of questions regarding he and his HS as well
Going to be dodging bullets left and right if they're avoiding guys that went to phony high schools and have phony lying handlers.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 10:57 pm to The LGBM
That’s why I tend to lean toward Sochan, a dude that is that good defensively has to have that “want it” factor. We can figure out the offensive side with him (see Herbert Jones).
Posted on 5/19/22 at 11:03 pm to Epic Cajun
To me it's
1) Don't be an a-hole
2) Have good basketball instincts
3) Skills/Tools
If they check the first 2 off then you can pick the one with the most skills/tools/potential. But NAW/Hayes vs. Herb/Jose just highlights the difference between the 2 extremes when you value #3 above #2.
1) Don't be an a-hole
2) Have good basketball instincts
3) Skills/Tools
If they check the first 2 off then you can pick the one with the most skills/tools/potential. But NAW/Hayes vs. Herb/Jose just highlights the difference between the 2 extremes when you value #3 above #2.
This post was edited on 5/19/22 at 11:04 pm
Posted on 5/19/22 at 11:15 pm to TigerinATL
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1) Don't be an a-hole
2) Have good basketball instincts
3) Skills/Tools
If they check the first 2 off then you can pick the one with the most skills/tools/potential. But NAW/Hayes vs. Herb/Jose just highlights the difference between the 2 extremes when you value #3 above #2.
You make a good point about the mistake to value #3 over #2. Makes a lot of sense.
Posted on 5/19/22 at 11:19 pm to saintsfan22
Apparently Sharpe is constantly in the gym and is a pretty quiet guy. I think the question is less with his character and more with whether he can play basketball while not being a ball hog
Posted on 5/20/22 at 5:00 am to LilWezyAna
Yeah I've seen nothing but positive things regarding Sharpe and his character/maturity, except for from some salty UK fans.
Not sure where Bunchie saw or heard rumors otherwise.
Doesn't matter because he's almost certainly gone by pick 8.
Not sure where Bunchie saw or heard rumors otherwise.
Doesn't matter because he's almost certainly gone by pick 8.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 7:42 am to Epic Cajun
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That’s why I tend to lean toward Sochan, a dude that is that good defensively has to have that “want it” factor. We can figure out the offensive side with him (see Herbert Jones).
Herb showed his improvement on offense in college. it wasn't a mystery when he was drafted. He went from a 50% FT shooter his first 2 years to a 71% FT shooter his senior year, and has done even better in the NBA.
Herb has good to great handles, and can finish at the rim, in college.
You have no idea if we can figure it out for Sochan. It's a yuge risk. We didn't figure it out for Herb. He figured it out before he got here, and we just helped him grow more with what he was already doing well. Sochan does nothing well offensively. great, possibly elite defender, but looks putrid on offense.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 8:12 am to TeddyPadillac
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Herb showed his improvement on offense in college. it wasn't a mystery when he was drafted. He went from a 50% FT shooter his first 2 years to a 71% FT shooter his senior year, and has done even better in the NBA.
So Herb is proof that someone with elite defense and mediocre to bad offense can improve on that side of the ball?
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You have no idea if we can figure it out for Sochan. It's a yuge risk
Do you think it's easier to bump your shooting percentage up a few percentage points or learn how to play defense? When you're drafting at 8, there's going to be a risk with every player available, otherwise that player would be drafted higher than 8.
I'll take the 19 year old with elite defense, and bet that he can up his shooting percentage a few points, over a shooter who either doesn't care or doesn't have the basketball instincts to play good defense.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 8:28 am to Epic Cajun
Why can’t you have both? It’s always one end of the spectrum or the other for this fan base. There are several two way players in the draft.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 8:36 am to TeddyPadillac
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Sochan does nothing well offensively.
Nothing well? That’s an overreaction. He doesn’t shoot it well (36% in C&S situations though, which is a hair below average, and shows upside), but he’s surprisingly skilled in a lot of other areas. More skilled than he got to show at Baylor.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 8:41 am to CP3forMVP
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Nothing well? That’s an overreaction. He doesn’t shoot it well (36% in C&S situations though, which is a hair below average, and shows upside), but he’s surprisingly skilled in a lot of other areas. More skilled than he got to show at Baylor.
What are these other areas? Where did he show them if not at Baylor? I’m genuinely curious- would love to know what you’re referring to here.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 9:13 am to Epic Cajun
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So Herb is proof that someone with elite defense and mediocre to bad offense can improve on that side of the ball?
Yes he is, and he was able to prove it before he was drafted.
That's the point.
Why would you draft someone with the #8 overall pick, and hope he learns how to not be a complete non factor on offense after you draft him?
That's the kind of guy you take in the 20's and 30's, not #8.
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When you're drafting at 8, there's going to be a risk with every player available,
There's a risk with everyone, but that risk gets greater and greater the further in the draft you go. Doesn't mean you have to take someone that risky at #8 when there's plenty of other less risky players available, or players with risk that have much higher floors.
What is Sochan's ceiling, b/c his floor is someone who barely makes it to a second contract.
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I'll take the 19 year old with elite defense, and bet that he can up his shooting percentage a few points, over a shooter who either doesn't care or doesn't have the basketball instincts to play good defense.
I would agree with that, and i do think Sochan can be a good C&S 3 point shooter in the NBA. His release is slow, but when he has time it looks good. He's also slow and not that athletic, but his motor is what makes him good, and i always like guys like that.
But as i said, there's way too much risk with him, and not enough reward to take him 8th overall.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 9:15 am to The LGBM
This is the kind of guy you want/need to compliment everyone else on the team.
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Shoots the 3, high character, stays in the gym, has leadership qualities and is unselfish on the court. Also willingly plays defense, but does get lost at times.
Mathurin HAS to be our pick if he’s there.
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Shoots the 3, high character, stays in the gym, has leadership qualities and is unselfish on the court. Also willingly plays defense, but does get lost at times.
Mathurin HAS to be our pick if he’s there.
This post was edited on 5/20/22 at 9:18 am
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