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re: STEVE KERR being criticized for his rotations in Olympics . Sound familiar ?
Posted on 8/2/24 at 9:00 pm to Chalkywhite84
Posted on 8/2/24 at 9:00 pm to Chalkywhite84
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Do you really believe one coach gets a head coaching job and does everything exactly the same as the team they came from?
My bad . Monty Williams. How is he doing these days besides collecting pay?
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Posted on 8/2/24 at 9:09 pm to LSUGrad1995
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If Kerr is so a great coach and teacher how is it Willie knows nothing about rotations?
Probably because Willie is a horrible student.
Posted on 8/2/24 at 9:13 pm to Pels_Yaz
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Probably because Willie is a horrible student.
Alvin Gentry was one of Kerr”s students too. Speaking of shite rotations.
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Posted on 8/2/24 at 11:40 pm to LSUGrad1995
Yall have gone too far with the Willie bashing. It's 90% the injuries. Last year we were "lucky" yet still had our 2nd star get his knee bent the wrong way and lost our star for the playoffs.
Yet somehow we are disappointed they were swept by the best team in the west. The 8th seed...without its star... and its #2 guy clearly not ??.
What "rotation" moves were gonna make up for Zion being out? You think OKC looks that good w/o SGA?
Willie heys his team bought in, motivated, and creates a cohesive team environment. That's something. The nba is about talent. Ideal coaching maybe contribute 5%-10% tops. A few outliers like Pop and Spo and then the rest. Willie may not be an outlier but yall are talking like he is complete garbage. Won 49 games in the west.
Yet somehow we are disappointed they were swept by the best team in the west. The 8th seed...without its star... and its #2 guy clearly not ??.
What "rotation" moves were gonna make up for Zion being out? You think OKC looks that good w/o SGA?
Willie heys his team bought in, motivated, and creates a cohesive team environment. That's something. The nba is about talent. Ideal coaching maybe contribute 5%-10% tops. A few outliers like Pop and Spo and then the rest. Willie may not be an outlier but yall are talking like he is complete garbage. Won 49 games in the west.
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Posted on 8/3/24 at 7:15 am to LSUGrad1995
The “bad rotation” criticism is shakey
In most cases. It’s almost reflexive if a team is struggling for some people to say that different guys should have been on the floor att a given time.
In most cases. It’s almost reflexive if a team is struggling for some people to say that different guys should have been on the floor att a given time.
Posted on 8/3/24 at 10:19 am to VOR
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The “bad rotation” criticism is shakey In most cases. It’s almost reflexive if a team is struggling for some people to say that different guys should have been on the floor att a given time.
Trust the process?
Posted on 8/3/24 at 10:35 am to LSUGrad1995
I always thought Steve Kerr was an extremely overrated coach. He had the arguably the two best shooters of all time plus KD (one of the best players of all time) and an owner willing to spend an absorbent amount of money over to tax to keep his core. Most coaches can be successful with that.
Posted on 8/3/24 at 10:50 am to LSUGrad1995
And they’ve been winning by 15-20 against 2 of the top teams. Oh, let’s criticize the coach because Jason Tatum had his feelings hurt. So dumb to be criticizing flawless results thus far because of some rotation crap.
Lebron, Steph, and KD are the guys so Jrue or White also need a lot of play to cover for Steph’s weak Defense. Bam and AD have to play for interior and switchy D and then Edwards and Booker are dawgs.
Lebron, Steph, and KD are the guys so Jrue or White also need a lot of play to cover for Steph’s weak Defense. Bam and AD have to play for interior and switchy D and then Edwards and Booker are dawgs.
Posted on 8/3/24 at 10:53 am to LSUGrad1995
It's an impossible job to do the rotations for the olympic team. So many good players and if the guy you picked is having a slightly down game, there are very capable players on the bench who could have had a better game.
That doesn't mean they would have, but people love that magical upside.
The coach can't predict exactly how players might perform night in and night out and they have to make the best estimate they can. As long as we win gold all will be forgiven
That doesn't mean they would have, but people love that magical upside.
The coach can't predict exactly how players might perform night in and night out and they have to make the best estimate they can. As long as we win gold all will be forgiven
Posted on 8/3/24 at 12:04 pm to LSUGrad1995
Another blowout win for team USA
Posted on 8/3/24 at 1:05 pm to LSUGrad1995
comparing Willie Green to Steve Kerr…. you don’t know ball bro.
Posted on 8/5/24 at 9:22 am to aswemajor
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As long as we win gold all will be forgiven
Other countries have players now too…
Posted on 8/5/24 at 10:27 am to six4lsu
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Your original point trying to tie Willie's perceived rotation struggles to learning under Kerr is silly. Look around every team complains about who their coach isn't playing.
It's low hanging fruit because it's one of the clear examples of "coaching" that fans can actually see
Willie isn't perfect but it's pretty clear there's things he does well
BTW the player most people were clamoring for him to play last year just completed a summer league where he couldn't throw the ball in the ocean
Posted on 8/5/24 at 11:05 am to DallasTiger45
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It's low hanging fruit because it's one of the clear examples of "coaching" that fans can actually see
His rotations have been routinely questioned not just by fans but by local and even national media. It is a clear issue he has a coach.
He also when it comes to late game planning or adjustments has been absolutely horrendous. The team never won a single game last year trailing in the fourth- a lot of that falls on Willie.
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BTW the player most people were clamoring for him to play last year just completed a summer league where he couldn't throw the ball in the ocean
He struggled last summer league either. Not sure what that has to do with regular season rotations.
Posted on 8/6/24 at 1:45 pm to Pels_Yaz
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He also when it comes to late game planning or adjustments has been absolutely horrendous. The team never won a single game last year trailing in the fourth- a lot of that falls on Willie.
Agreed, this is a legitimate criticism. That poor a record in close and late situations reflects poorly on the coach.
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He struggled last summer league either. Not sure what that has to do with regular season rotations.
It means that if Hawkins hasn't played well in the NBA regular season or either of his first 2 summer league seasons...maybe we shouldn't knock Willie for not playing him, because it seems like he's just not good enough yet?
Posted on 8/6/24 at 1:59 pm to DallasTiger45
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It means that if Hawkins hasn't played well in the NBA regular season
I’m not sure if this seems agreeable by everyone. Hawkins won us some games early on with his shooting and spacing. He was one of the top rookies in the league in beginning of the season. There are others who would argue his defense cost us games and guys like Naji/Jose were just better. Personally, I think Hawk earned his way to get more rotational minutes from his play earlier in the season and it was up to Willie to find those minutes.
Posted on 8/6/24 at 3:02 pm to Pels_Yaz
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I’m not sure if this seems agreeable by everyone. Hawkins won us some games early on with his shooting and spacing. He was one of the top rookies in the league in beginning of the season. There are others who would argue his defense cost us games and guys like Naji/Jose were just better. Personally, I think Hawk earned his way to get more rotational minutes from his play earlier in the season and it was up to Willie to find those minutes.
The stats are what they are IMO when you look at things from season-long perspective. Pretty ugly advanced stats even while playing a lot of minutes with a bench unit that generally won their minutes. Even my eye test says he had up and down shooting from the field with obvious defensive issues. Doesn't exactly scream "gotta find this guy more minutes" to me.
The reason I bring up summer league is that is a counter to the argument that he needs to play more to get in a rhythm- he played plenty in summer league, had plenty of offensive opportunity...and was still inefficient offensively and not a positive defensive player.
I know others have their opinions on Hawk that are more favorable, and they could be proven right. But I'm not gonna use Willie's refusal to play Hawk as a mark against Willie's coaching when I don't think Hawk has shown that he's good.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 3:26 pm to DallasTiger45
US down by 11 in fourth to Serbia. If USA loses to Serbia and cant get gold with the talent on that team- thats ridiculous.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 3:38 pm to Pels_Yaz
Nevermind. USA great comeback. Good game late.
Posted on 8/9/24 at 5:01 pm to Pels_Yaz
The rest of the world is definitely catching up, but there is no reason the US should not continue to dominate based on population alone. I just don't see how FIBA rules always seem to be such a handicap for us
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