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re: So, the whole piano story was BS?
Posted on 9/28/21 at 12:40 am to NolaJake
Posted on 9/28/21 at 12:40 am to NolaJake
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Appreciate the defense of me, but don't need it. My girlfriend is way hotter than whoever he is with, and she's quite accomplished too. I don't spend my spare time attacking others online to make me feel better about my shitty life. Plus, I'm glad he follows me on twitter and listens to my stuff. Loyal listeners like him are why this, as my side hustle, pays more than being a high school football special teams coordinator.
Well this thread didn’t turn out like I expected. Congrats on the super hot girlfriend bro.
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Posted on 9/28/21 at 3:22 am to PigDog33
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Holy crap man. Get a grip.
Or start a group chat with your immediate family if all your looking for is agreement , kudos , and attaboys.
The dude is a blogger who acts like a valley girl. Did you expect any different?
Posted on 9/28/21 at 4:34 am to NolaJake
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And I think my track record speaks for itself. Nothing stated today really contradicts the story. If you don't believe me that's fine. I'll stop posting here
Fine. I'll stop listening, because the fact that David Griffin doesn't play the piano and doesn't know how to play the piano does indeed contradict the story, because the story was that Griffin asked to meet with Zion and played the piano for him.
Go back and watch your show about this again: LINK
"I played the piano to my players to try to motivate them." That's what you said David Griffin did.
If he's flat-out lying, then someone, somewhere ought to be able to say that Griffin plays the piano.
If the true story is that "Zion and Griffin had an awkward social interaction in the bubble that involved Griffin trying to learn the piano," that's a different story from David Griffin playing something like the theme to "Rocky" to Zion before a game to try to inspire him. The distinction might not mean a whole lot in the grand scheme of things, but maybe it does.
I just think that accuracy matters. So, yeah, I don't believe you. I think that you overdramatized the situation for clicks.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 5:21 am to GOP_Tiger
It very could have even been that Z and Griff were having a meeting and Griff was playing with the keyboard when Zion walked in, and bam, people ran with Griff played the "piano" for Zion.
Well, I guess if the worst news to come out is mostly a lie, then that's great news for us and the organization.
Well, I guess if the worst news to come out is mostly a lie, then that's great news for us and the organization.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 5:38 am to GOP_Tiger
One more thing, Jake: I came into this thread ready to give you the benefit of the doubt.
But you came into this thread bragging about how hot your girlfriend is and how awesome your reputation is, and threatening to leave us if anyone else said mean things about you.
That honestly speaks to some emotional insecurity, and it's just weird and doesn't enhance your credibility.
Now, it may actually be true that, as you've said, David Griffin is truly a weirdo and socially inept, but I don't think you're the guy to make that case.
But you came into this thread bragging about how hot your girlfriend is and how awesome your reputation is, and threatening to leave us if anyone else said mean things about you.
That honestly speaks to some emotional insecurity, and it's just weird and doesn't enhance your credibility.
Now, it may actually be true that, as you've said, David Griffin is truly a weirdo and socially inept, but I don't think you're the guy to make that case.
This post was edited on 9/28/21 at 5:42 am
Posted on 9/28/21 at 7:19 am to GOP_Tiger
A reminder how pathetic some people are. Trying to pathetically dogpile and "own" a blogger. It's like some of you come out of the woodworks after never posting only to pathetically try and use trolling on a message board to fill the hole of misery they exist with...
GOP, all we have this morning is two conflicting stories, one from a known liar and one from someone up to this point with a pretty stellar track record.
You hopping to Griff's narrative says more about you and your intrinsic biases and preferences than the credibility of Jake or Clark. Because we simply do not know where the truth is right now.
I tend to think some wires got crossed and hearsay used, but not even Zion and Griff's stories lined up, that should at a minimum be a red flag that there is more to the story than the narrative Griff and Zion fed. But you are ready to hand the lifetime snake oil salesman the pin code to your bank account on his "word."
GOP, all we have this morning is two conflicting stories, one from a known liar and one from someone up to this point with a pretty stellar track record.
You hopping to Griff's narrative says more about you and your intrinsic biases and preferences than the credibility of Jake or Clark. Because we simply do not know where the truth is right now.
I tend to think some wires got crossed and hearsay used, but not even Zion and Griff's stories lined up, that should at a minimum be a red flag that there is more to the story than the narrative Griff and Zion fed. But you are ready to hand the lifetime snake oil salesman the pin code to your bank account on his "word."
Posted on 9/28/21 at 7:19 am to shel311
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True, or he could have done exactly what he did.
I just don't get his motivation to cover for Griff if he really doesn't like him as much as the article claimed.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 7:25 am to purplepylon
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crazy article depicting Griffin as this weirdo piano guy.
The more and more I see and hear Griffin, I think he is a little weird guy. And if Zion mentioned the keyboard, the article is closer to being truthful than false in my opinion. Not to mention all the other quirky stuff mentioned seems like it’s right up his ally.
I haven’t agreed with the majority of Griffs moves since he was hired, and I think he’s lost just about every trade outside of the one for Jrue. I have to especially doubt his basketball knowledge just after the Adam’s trade. I thought he couldn’t be worse than Dell but what he was given to start off with, it’s looking really bad. (Zion, AD & Jrue)
This post was edited on 9/28/21 at 7:28 am
Posted on 9/28/21 at 7:32 am to Townedrunkard
Maybe it was a floor piano and Griff tried to get Zion to play chopsticks with him like the guys from Big
Posted on 9/28/21 at 7:33 am to Bronc
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A reminder how pathetic some people are. Trying to pathetically dogpile and "own" a blogger. It's like some of you come out of the woodworks after never posting only to pathetically try and use trolling on a message board to fill the hole of misery they exist with...
GOP, all we have this morning is two conflicting stories, one from a known liar and one from someone up to this point with a pretty stellar track record.
You hopping to Griff's narrative says more about you and your intrinsic biases and preferences than the credibility of Jake or Clark. Because we simply do not know where the truth is right now.
I tend to think some wires got crossed and hearsay used, but not even Zion and Griff's stories lined up, that should at a minimum be a red flag that there is more to the story than the narrative Griff and Zion fed. But you are ready to hand the lifetime snake oil salesman the pin code to your bank account on his "word."
Y'all are taking this way too seriously lol
This whole thread is weird af tbh
Posted on 9/28/21 at 7:37 am to JohnnyKilroy
I would say that it is probably pretty easy to refute if Griff not only knows how to play piano, but has played in front of other people at some point in his life. I know how to play and pretty much any of my family could easily confirm it if it was in doubt.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 7:39 am to saints5021
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Maybe it was a floor piano and Griff tried to get Zion to play chopsticks with him like the guys from Big
Now that would have been epic.
My point being, is you won’t hear shite like this coming out about let’s say Pat Riley. You know he’s more worried about making the right basketball moves to get his team a ship. Not all this love hugs kisses and family environment shite. That doesn’t win games. You know what does, not making horrible moves like giving up two first round picks for a Stone Age center and actually getting help for your young superstar so stupid stories like this don’t pop up……
Posted on 9/28/21 at 7:39 am to Epic Cajun
Is the story not also embarrassing for him? Could it also be true that Zion feels obligations to the organization outside of Griff and sees poor PR as harmful to his peers and coaches? Important to his bottom line and own leverage down the road?
He went pretty hard on the idea of being alone with another man in a room. It's clearly not a light he wants his peers or the public to see him in. He made that pretty clear with the angle he took.
What is odd about the story on reflection and more and more leads me to believe we still don't have the whole story(though I still err on it being far less than what was initially inferred) is that you have conflicting narratives still. Griff saying, in careful words "I dont/can't play the piano" Zion saying he brought a keyboard to the bubble. Even if you wanted to craft a counter narrative, the two stories make that impossible.
He went pretty hard on the idea of being alone with another man in a room. It's clearly not a light he wants his peers or the public to see him in. He made that pretty clear with the angle he took.
What is odd about the story on reflection and more and more leads me to believe we still don't have the whole story(though I still err on it being far less than what was initially inferred) is that you have conflicting narratives still. Griff saying, in careful words "I dont/can't play the piano" Zion saying he brought a keyboard to the bubble. Even if you wanted to craft a counter narrative, the two stories make that impossible.
This post was edited on 9/28/21 at 7:42 am
Posted on 9/28/21 at 7:42 am to GOP_Tiger
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Fine. I'll stop listening, because the fact that David Griffin doesn't play the piano and doesn't know how to play the piano does indeed contradict the story, because the story was that Griffin asked to meet with Zion and played the piano for him.
Griffin had a keyboard with him and was “learning” per Zion.
There’s some truth to the story. Be objective for once.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 7:51 am to Fun Bunch
Yep, it might just be that instead of the image most had of Griff awkwardly calling Zion to his room and trying to play the piano and sing rocket man like some creepy pedo boomer serenading a teenager
Instead it was maybe a bit more innocuous than the hearsay and Griff asked Zion over for a check in and was practicing the keyboard and Zion, who was widely reported and made public statements that he was already frustrated with the FO for the bursts, passed the story on as "that dude was fricking playing the piano, what a clown."
Clark talks to some former Gentry staffers and boom, you have the piano story from multiple sources.
....Complete speculation but it would line up the currently conflicting stories. But either way, I still say this is now a non-issue based on Zion's willingness to show a unified front.
Instead it was maybe a bit more innocuous than the hearsay and Griff asked Zion over for a check in and was practicing the keyboard and Zion, who was widely reported and made public statements that he was already frustrated with the FO for the bursts, passed the story on as "that dude was fricking playing the piano, what a clown."
Clark talks to some former Gentry staffers and boom, you have the piano story from multiple sources.
....Complete speculation but it would line up the currently conflicting stories. But either way, I still say this is now a non-issue based on Zion's willingness to show a unified front.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 7:54 am to Bronc
That’s kind of what I think happened.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 7:57 am to Bronc
That's definitely what happened.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 8:04 am to Fun Bunch
It’s going to be great after we win the championship when we find out Griff and Zion have been taking lessons together and are playing together on a float during the victory parade.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 8:09 am to SLafourche07
Hate to quote Hollinger, but opposing teams HAVE to play Piano Man during our opening intros at away games now.
Any team that doesn’t is lame.
Any team that doesn’t is lame.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 8:12 am to Bronc
That's reasonable and more likely, I think bigger point and what I really care about is that it doesn't seem as though Zion is as "upset" with the organization/front office than was portrayed in the article.
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