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re: Shams says Pelicans are “aggressively pursuing” a top 2-3 pick for Scoot
Posted on 6/15/23 at 4:41 pm to Sheep
Posted on 6/15/23 at 4:41 pm to Sheep
Clip of Woj on Russillo's podcast talking about Zion. Both said strongly that they don't think the Pels would trade him, but the interesting bit is Woj didn't think trading Zion would get the Pels to 2 or 3.
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Unless your getting in at 2 or 3 in the draft, and I don't think they're going to get in at 2 or 3
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Posted on 6/15/23 at 4:43 pm to TigerinATL
That’s laughable.
Look, Woj is great at reporting actual news.
He’s awful at analysis and when he says things like that it’s because a team asked him too.
So Charlotte is telling him to say Zion won’t get you close to 2! We need 3 superstars and 10 picks.
Look, Woj is great at reporting actual news.
He’s awful at analysis and when he says things like that it’s because a team asked him too.
So Charlotte is telling him to say Zion won’t get you close to 2! We need 3 superstars and 10 picks.
Posted on 6/15/23 at 4:55 pm to Fun Bunch
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Look, Woj is great at reporting actual news.
He’s awful at analysis and when he says things like that it’s because a team asked him too.
Zion will not get you the 2nd pick. That's a fact. Hornets won't do that deal. We have to give them #14, take on some salary, plus a future pick.. even then, they still might not do it..
Posted on 6/15/23 at 5:00 pm to brmark70816
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Zion will not get you the 2nd pick.
Sure guy.
It would be the other way around.
Posted on 6/15/23 at 5:01 pm to TigerinATL
Did Woj mention anything in the pod about BI??
Posted on 6/15/23 at 6:17 pm to Soggymoss
Givony was on Zach Lowes latest podcast and said "I've been told New Orleans is not trading Zion, and no interest in trading Ingram"
Said he was told they made calls to see what it would take but shot down any notions of Zion or BI being in a potential deal
Said he was told they made calls to see what it would take but shot down any notions of Zion or BI being in a potential deal
This post was edited on 6/15/23 at 6:20 pm
Posted on 6/15/23 at 6:20 pm to shel311
Well back to praying Zion stays healthy and we find another Trey Murphy at 14. The trade rumor stuff was fun while it lasted lol.
Posted on 6/15/23 at 6:23 pm to TigerinATL
quote:I heard that clip and it sounds more like he's saying the Pels won't make the players available to get in at 2 or 3.
Unless your getting in at 2 or 3 in the draft, and I don't think they're going to get in at 2 or 3
I could be a wrong but I didn't take it as dangling Zion wouldn't get them to 2 or 3.
Posted on 6/15/23 at 6:32 pm to brmark70816
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Zion will not get you the 2nd pick. That's a fact.
If we offered Zion to Charlotte for #2 and 3 future firsts they wouldn’t be able to say yes fast enough.
Don’t be an idiot.
Zions potential is still MVP of the league. Everyone has seen that potential, in the nba. No one in any draft this century has had that as a clear potential except Lebron.
Posted on 6/15/23 at 6:39 pm to TeddyPadillac
“If we offered Zion to Charlotte for #2 and 3 future firsts they wouldn’t be able to say yes fast enough.”
Come on man. I really don’t think you understand how other fans and teams view Zion. Go on message board or just read local reporters of other teams. They aren’t even as close to enamored with Zion as you’re suggesting. Zion may have all that potential but his current trade value is not remotely close to that.
Come on man. I really don’t think you understand how other fans and teams view Zion. Go on message board or just read local reporters of other teams. They aren’t even as close to enamored with Zion as you’re suggesting. Zion may have all that potential but his current trade value is not remotely close to that.
Posted on 6/15/23 at 6:52 pm to Pels_Yaz
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Zion may have all that potential but his current trade value is not remotely close to that.
I’m glad you have a better understanding of the word “potential” now lol
Posted on 6/15/23 at 6:54 pm to brmark70816
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Zion will not get you the 2nd pick. That's a fact. Hornets won't do that deal. We have to give them #14, take on some salary, plus a future pick.. even then, they still might not do it..
THAT is a take
Posted on 6/15/23 at 6:56 pm to SCLSUMuddogs
If you read carefully I said MAY, that doesn’t mean I completely agree with him and that injuries aren’t taking into account in regards to that potential but good try there lol You guys can’t stump Mac- whoops lol hahahaha.
Posted on 6/15/23 at 7:03 pm to Pels_Yaz
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Zion may have all that potential but his current trade value is not remotely close to that.
Yeah ok bub
Posted on 6/15/23 at 7:03 pm to Pels_Yaz
Potential means showing the capacity to become or develop into something in the future. He has shown the capacity to become an MVP, injuries do not negate his capacity to do something.
Having a high IQ means you have a high capacity for learning, doesn’t mean there aren’t people with 130 iqs who know significantly less than one with a 100
Having a high IQ means you have a high capacity for learning, doesn’t mean there aren’t people with 130 iqs who know significantly less than one with a 100
This post was edited on 6/15/23 at 7:15 pm
Posted on 6/15/23 at 7:04 pm to TeddyPadillac
glad you understand bub- what are you wolverine??
Posted on 6/15/23 at 7:16 pm to SCLSUMuddogs
“He has shown the capacity to become an MVP, injuries to not negate his capacity to do something. “
Lol yes they do. Injuries dont make him available to reach that capacity. You have to play at least 65 games to become a MVP, injuries can limit him to 40. Clearly injuries can negate him being a MVP.
In regards to your IQ analogy- thats incorrect in regards to this. Its like comparing Zion and a player who has less talent than Zion. A correct analogy in this situation would be if a person has a high IQ but he is restricted from learning due to certain circumstances. In that instance, that person has the potential to learn at a high capacity but due to certain circumstances he does not reach his full potential and knows less than people with a lower IQ.
Lol yes they do. Injuries dont make him available to reach that capacity. You have to play at least 65 games to become a MVP, injuries can limit him to 40. Clearly injuries can negate him being a MVP.
In regards to your IQ analogy- thats incorrect in regards to this. Its like comparing Zion and a player who has less talent than Zion. A correct analogy in this situation would be if a person has a high IQ but he is restricted from learning due to certain circumstances. In that instance, that person has the potential to learn at a high capacity but due to certain circumstances he does not reach his full potential and knows less than people with a lower IQ.
Posted on 6/15/23 at 7:19 pm to Pels_Yaz
You’re pretty dense dude. Players with massive injury concerns are drafted highly on “potential alone” in every single draft for every single sport in all of mankind lol. ETA: Darius Garland being a prominent recent example that came to mind
Potential ceiling means, if everything goes right and he works his arse off, what is the best version of this guy possible.
You weigh things like injuries against things like potential in your pros and cons big dog
Potential ceiling means, if everything goes right and he works his arse off, what is the best version of this guy possible.
You weigh things like injuries against things like potential in your pros and cons big dog
This post was edited on 6/15/23 at 7:34 pm
Posted on 6/15/23 at 7:19 pm to brmark70816
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Zion will not get you the 2nd pick. That's a fact. Hornets won't do that deal. We have to give them #14, take on some salary, plus a future pick.. even then, they still might not do it.
Bro, I can all but guarantee you that Charlotte would give the 2 pick for Zion. “Fans, we said no to taking a superstar generational talent from our area because we can get Scoot.” Mmmk bro.
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