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CelticDog
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re: Random Playoff Observations Thread
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Also I’m not down with sacrificing the war chest to get good or really good. The war chest should be to get the last all star level player to put next to Zion and BI when they are both top 15 players instead of 35 to 50


Danny ainge.

come by my place for some bass fishing.

getting good (.500 or better) lets zion enjoy playin or really good lets zion enjoy playoffs.
I feel its critical to make the tournament 2022.
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SlowFlowPro
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CJ is not a big enough difference maker to unload the warchest for IMO.


what will CJ go for? i can't imagine he's worth more than maybe 2, 1sts. i don't think we would have to "unload the war chest" for him


lgtiger
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re: Random Playoff Observations Thread
I thought CP3 was a free agent ? Do they have an option on him ? Pardon my ignorance


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Empty it, no, but he would take meaningful assets to acquire considering if he gets moved, Portland is only going to do it for something that they can get back to put around Lillard in the hopes that it will calm him down and not turn into a disgruntled player.



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PrayingMantis
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I wouldn’t use 1 1st. An asset is t just how good a player is it’s how good are they for the money. Imo he is overpayed. He is getting over 30m per and never made an all star game and never will. He is also nearly 30 so he isn’t on our timeline. Unless we gave them Bledsoe I’m not giving a positive asset to get him


SlowFlowPro
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oh I'm not pushing for CJ just saying he wouldn't be THAT expensive (to use the term "unload the war chest")

Dame probably would be, but he turns 31 next month


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I think this board is so focused on the home run moves, or landing the big names. I think we'd see full-blown meltdown if we had an offseason like the Hawks last year.

Gallinari - 3/$61M
Rondo - 2/$15M
Bogdanovich - 4/$72M
Solomon Hill- 1/$2M


One could say their trade of Capela is similar to ours for Adams.

And here they are 1 up in the EC semis
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Townedrunkard
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Bogdanovich - 4/$72M


We really should have explored trying to get him and shipping off JJ and/or Ball last off season.


TeddyPadillac
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re: Random Playoff Observations Thread
after watching Bogdanvich in the bubble against us, i didn't think much of him b/c of how terrible he was on defense, despite him having a great offensive game. Lonzo was actually driving by him for layups, which is somethign we never see.

He looks awesome in Atlanta. He oozes confidence. I thought that contract was going to be a killer to Atlanta, but it's without a doubt working out.


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J_Hingle
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re: Random Playoff Observations Thread
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I think this board is so focused on the home run moves, or landing the big names. I think we'd see full-blown meltdown if we had an offseason like the Hawks last year.

Gallinari - 3/$61M
Rondo - 2/$15M
Bogdanovich - 4/$72M
Solomon Hill- 1/$2M


One could say their trade of Capela is similar to ours for Adams.

And here they are 1 up in the EC semis


If they can dump bledsoe and trade Lonzo, I am absolutely fine with signing guys that can just shoot and aren't complete dumbasses. This team needs shooters and high IQ players.


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high IQ players.


Wonder how much Conley, Lowry or Rose will cost since all of them are FAs. Any of them will help out our team a lot, no matter how old they are.

Edit: Rose, Olynyk and McDermott aren’t splashy players but will be a great off season for us.
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TigerinATL
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Speaking of high IQ players, I know this board loves to laugh at Kendrick Perkins. You have to watch this clip from The Jump starting at the 3:45 mark. After Richard Jefferson and Zach Lowe get finished talking about how the nice words from Carlisle on Porzingis were really a back handed compliment and he's not good enough to be the #2 player, Perk steps in with a different take and the facial expressions of bewilderment while Perk goes off are hilarious.

LINK

Also, I know Porzingis' name has started to be included in the list of trade targets because you could get him cheap. Zach and RJ's take that he'd work better for Dallas if he could play center but they can't do that because he's too fragile is exactly why he wouldn't work here.


Chalkywhite84
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Yeah, Porzingis is super overrated.

All he does is stand at the 3 point line.

I don't even think he is a 3 on a contender.


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shel311
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re: Random Playoff Observations Thread
Do not want Porzingas. We don't need negative value max contracts than then can potentially take us out of the running for an actual legit max level guy.


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GOP_Tiger
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re: Random Playoff Observations Thread


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Porzingis' name has started to be included in the list of trade targets because you could get him cheap


Dallas would absolutely have to attach picks to get off his contract. Nobody wants to pay $101.5 million over the next three years for a pick-and-pop shooter who couldn't even shoot 30% from 3 this season.

And, yeah, we don't want him 'cuz he's soft. We need tougher players, and Porzingis is the opposite of that.


GOP_Tiger
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re: Random Playoff Observations Thread
I mean, if Dallas offered Porzingis straight-up in exchange for Bledsoe and Adams, I guess I'd think about it. Our bad contracts for your bad contract? Maybe.


SaintTigerPel
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I agree, but our D would actually get significantly worse with that deal. And I’m as low on Bled as anyone, but Porzingas is just atrocious on defense.


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3PieceSpicy
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I guess the only reason why you wouldn’t do that is if you couldnt use their contracts to aggregate salary for someone better. I would also throw in a first and a second or two in that deal. People have really begun to underrate Porzingis. I think people forget the night he dropped 40 on Adams head just a few months ago. If you watch Dallas, Luka controls the ball 99% of the game, so Porz’s offensive game has been really minimized and marginalized and that is why he hates it there.

Porz is a good player and if the only thing we did this offseason was trade Adams, Bled, 10, and a second to Dallas for Porz and a future first, as well as run it back with Zo and Hart, I think our team would be tremendously improved. Getting rid of Bled and Adams are additions by subtraction and Porz is a guy who can drop 30 any given night, space the floor and protect the rim (Just 1-2 years ago I remember several 5 plus block Porz games. Sure his defense isn’t great, but he’s better than Adams at this point, especially when Porz gets further removed from his meniscus surgery.
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whatiknowsofar
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re: Random Playoff Observations Thread
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I mean, if Dallas offered Porzingis straight-up in exchange for Bledsoe and Adams, I guess I'd think about it. Our bad contracts for your bad contract? Maybe.


After what Griffin said that's a burning down SKC level type of trade.


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shel311
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If you watch Dallas, Luka controls the ball 99% of the game, so Porz’s offensive game has been really minimized and marginalized and that is why he hates it there
Well, that's what we should do with Zion, so not sure how it would be beneficial for him to be in New Orleans.


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