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re: Pels/Cavs discuss Collin Sexton trade

Posted on 7/11/21 at 4:03 pm to
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22776 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 4:03 pm to
I wouldn’t mind a package bringing back Sexton and Nance if it only cost us Lewis, picks, and we could attach at least Bledsoe.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30080 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 4:04 pm to
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Wait you’re saying trade Bledsoe, Adams, 2 firsts and 2 seconds for Collin Sexton?????? You’ve lost your posting privileges for the day for suggesting something so fricking stupid. Why don’t we just trade Zion to the Knicks for Julius Randle straight up while we’re at it?



Bledsoe is a negative asset
Kira is a neutral one at best
10th overall isn't some MAJOR value, 2 2nds is at best equivalent to a late 1st, and a future 1st from LAL or us (you're assuming we're BOTH playoff teams right -- because that's the goal).

We gave up #6 and a future 1st for an up-and-coming Jrue Holiday. That's not much different for Sexton.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32368 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 4:07 pm to
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I’m really cool with Sexton because I think we need a killer at G. But we will need to get some damn good individual defenders to help.



I agree with this
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115394 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 4:07 pm to
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Kira is a neutral one at best


Nah man. There are varying degrees of positive value. He’s positive value for sure.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71485 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 4:11 pm to
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We gave up #6 and a future 1st for an up-and-coming Jrue Holiday. That's not much different for Sexton.


Jrue was months removed from his all-star appearance and more importantly his extension was already done and just kicking in.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32368 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 4:11 pm to
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I think one question to ask is who would you rather be playing low $20 million to, Sexton or Buddy?

IMO, this team needs a lead guard more than a pure shooter.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30080 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 4:13 pm to
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Nah man. There are varying degrees of positive value. He’s positive value for sure.



Yeah, I think I considered it more of a bledsoe being a negative value and Kira would at least be an offsetting asset in that trade.

"would a team give a lottery 1st" -- I'd say no
"would a team give a 20+ 1st" -- Yeah
Posted by LSUJD_04
Member since Feb 2021
1513 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 4:15 pm to
If they are going to trade with Cleveland I would rather it be for Garland than Sexton. He’s the better facilitator and better outside shooter plus he’s further away from free agency than Sexton.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32368 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 4:17 pm to
They aren’t trading Garland, the emergence of Garland is one of the reasons why they are wanting to move Sexton for assets
This post was edited on 7/11/21 at 4:17 pm
Posted by nicj4
Guadeloupe
Member since Jan 2020
719 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 4:25 pm to
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Sexton scores 24pts a game while being top 5 in double teams and top 5 in worst spacing.

You said it all my friend.

Sexton isn't a real ball hog.
He's just forced to do that...
He's the best playmaker of Cavs team for me. It's just that it doesn't show through the assists per game
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
8675 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 5:13 pm to
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I wouldn’t give up any young player for him like Kira, NAW, or Hayes. Maybe a Hart or Lonzo S&T somewhere else, some of those assets received plus 10 and Bledsoe for salary.


Yea I’m not giving up Kira and #10. I’m fine with either or and whatever first next year is the lowest out of the Lakers/Pels. And they take Bledsoe. Then go and get McDermott in fa and see what happens.
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
6221 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 5:27 pm to
Yeah, agreed. Bled, Kira, picks out

Sexton and either Prince or Nance in wouldn’t be half bad

Would solve a lot of problems and increase our ceiling quite a bit.

Glad a few people are at least warming up to it and acknowledging that Sexton is not trash.

Some of the critiques of a young player averaging a pretty efficient 24 a game have been overkill. I guess he would take some of the hear off of Ingram in that respect lol.

The only thing that I wish was different about sexton is that he was 6ft 5 instead of 6ft 1, but if we get Sexton, I think we still may retain Lonzo and at the minimum we’d still have Nickeil as a big guard to pair him with.
This post was edited on 7/11/21 at 5:29 pm
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27025 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 5:29 pm to
Need both.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27025 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 5:31 pm to
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Collin Sexton is a trash player who hogs the ball. Kevin Love hates that guy.


That has been proven false
He scored 24pts while being top 5 on double teams. He did that while having bottom five worst spacing.

It depends what is being given up.
Posted by Pelicans4Real
Member since Jun 2019
168 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 5:49 pm to
Sexton is a stud! He's percentages would go up here just from being the third option.
Posted by 504Voodoo
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2012
13530 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 5:49 pm to
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Collin Sexton is a trash player who hogs the ball.


This. We don't need ball dominant scorer that doesn't pass.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32368 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 6:07 pm to
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This. We don't need ball dominant scorer that doesn't pass.



We really need a ball dominant guard who can get his own shot from multiple levels.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32368 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 6:15 pm to
quote:

Sexton and either Prince or Nance in wouldn’t be half bad

Agreed. That would give some really good lineup versatility and the ability to have at least 2 really good scorers on the floor at all times.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27025 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 6:16 pm to
Does anyone else get the feeling that griffin is going to trade for sexton and kevin love?

I think that's going to happen. Big mistake.

I'd rather him do nothing.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32368 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 6:26 pm to
I would much rather Nance Jr or Prince than Love.
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