re: Pels/Cavs discuss Collin Sexton trade

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I would prefer the opposite. Let BI cook early, let Zion and Sexton get after it late game. They are better at attacking the basket and drawing fouls than BI is.

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Did you watch game 4 the other night?
What kind of shots were going up in the last 4 minutes, and who was taking them?
Middleton and Booker.
Mid-range contested shots.

I know you watch basketball. That's what happens at the end of most games, especially in the playoffs. You have to have a guy that can get to his spot in the mid range, elevate and shoot over the defenders hand.
That's BI.

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I know you watch basketball. That's what happens at the end of most games, especially in the playoffs. You have to have a guy that can get to his spot in the mid range, elevate and shoot over the defenders hand.
That's BI.

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That is what happens at times, at other times you have players who get to the rack and either score or draw a foul. I think it just depends on the makeup of your team. Those two teams best scoring options are guys who are really good at mid-range shots. I'm not opposed to BI filling that role too, but maybe I'm just scarred by his late game performances this season

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[The Athletic] The Knicks are looking to package their two first-round picks to move up in the draft, possibly into the mid-lottery. Possibly to help facilitate a trade for Collin Sexton.

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We already have a relatively high lottery pick without having to acquire one. Hmmmm

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I think BI is exhausted by the end of the game b/c he has to try so hard all game.

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its not shocking to think that either. look at his usage rate the last 2 seasons (28%) compared to the last year in LA (23%), its no surprise his defense the last 2 years are nowhere near what he was doing in LA.

The lack of spacing KILLS Ingram moreso than Zion. He works a hell of a lot harder to get his shots. He doesn't have a guard to help facilitate for him.

Sexton may not fix that, but I don't think us adding another potential scoring option who can:
1. get their own shot
2. get others a shot
3. 3 level scoring (attacking the rim, mid range, and 3pt)

is gonna hurt BI/Zion

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I don’t get the fit for GSW at all anyway.

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I believe they bought the new arena themselves. They need to remain a top team long term and not fall apart after the Steph/Klay era ends.

100%. I see them maybe making the biggest splash move in all of FA.

I assume you mean via S&T because they definitely can't sign any FAs.

Seems like he’s more interested in 40 year old lowry which isn’t too smart imo. Unless that’s fake noise in an attempt to gain some leverage. Teams gotta know we are desperate. Only way to muddy the waters a bit is to act like we have multiple options other than overpaying in a trade for their specific player.

I’m still onboard with Bled, Kira, 10, future first (or 2 good seconds this year) for Sexton and Nance

No need to dick around. Just do it as soon as we legally can rules wise. We’d be immensely better and still have a top 2-3 trade asset pile in the league.

How many teams in nba history could have said they have a top 3 big three in the entire league and have a top 3 trade asset pile at the same time?

You could definitely add us to the short list after we secure Sexton.

First thing first, I actually really like Kyle Lowry as a human and as a basketball player, but…

If we bring in Lowry on an outsized deal and we manage to burn assets to get him while New York pulls Sexton for some suspect arse package centered around Obi Toppin and Kevin Knox, I will probably lose the rest of my shite that I have to lose lol.

To me, they are similar players in terms of the value they could provide to our team. I am aware that the skillsets are different, but I don’t value one over the other as a player at this point. Lowry might provide more estimated wins added for 1 more season. But after that, I think Sexton will leave him in the dust in terms of usefulness.

If the choice is mediocre trade package for Sexton and then extending him for 4 yr 100mil or a lesser trade package and signing Lowry to 3 yr 80 mil, I’m personally going with Sexton.

Lowry is good, but that would be extremely shortsighted to pick maybe 2-3 solid more years of him over a potential 5,10, 15 years of Sexton.

If we need someone like Lowry to come in and teach Zion and Brandon how to be leaders, we are already fricked. If basketball and leadership is really important to them, they can call up Kyle Lowry or other players in the league to ask them for tips instead of our franchise paying an over the hill guy 85 mil to try and pass on wisdom to our young players. They either want to bear the responsibility of leadership and accountability or they don’t. The time for overpaid over the hill culture vets has passed. We tried that formula the first 2 seasons and it did not come close to working. It actually backfired badly.

Time to end the cycle Griff. Don’t double down on what clearly has not worked and will not work long term. You came to New Orleans talking about building sustainable success. Overpaying and overvaluing vets when there are dozens of other paths available to you is not even close to being the way to do that.