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re: Pelicans will introduce new EVP David Griffin on Wednesday @12:45 CT
Posted on 4/17/19 at 1:40 pm to eyeran
Posted on 4/17/19 at 1:40 pm to eyeran
quote:LOL
J@JeffDuncan_
Pelicans owner Gayle Benson said all of the interview candidates for the Pelicans director of basketball operations job agreed to keep Alvin Gentry on as head coach. “They all agreed he’s a quality coach,” she said.
Its Loomis all over again. Uncle Al's gonna be here as long as he wants to be.
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Posted on 4/17/19 at 1:44 pm to eyeran
That is about as disturbing a quote as I can expect after what seemed like a pretty good day.
Basically, it was a prereq of the job.
Basically, it was a prereq of the job.
Posted on 4/17/19 at 1:44 pm to eyeran
Not that anyone gives 2 shits what I think, but if AD stays I'm going to be pretty disappointed....Dude quit, and has had a shite attitude towards the team and city...
Posted on 4/17/19 at 1:50 pm to Jizzamo311
It would be easy to win people back over. Just say he got some bad advice, throw Dell under the bus, etc etc. One press conference and him signing that extension, and you all would be back on board. Lebron actually left a city on live TV and they welcomed him back with open arms after a little taste of what it would be like without him for a few years
Posted on 4/17/19 at 1:50 pm to Jizzamo311
Look—there are plenty of incidents were couples hate each other for a couple months and even file for divorce only to “reconnect” and live happily ever after. It’s not unheard of—especially with him seeing how his boys John Wall and Boogie are doing. Easy for him to save face and say he believes in the future and the moves the franchise has taken.
Posted on 4/17/19 at 1:51 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:And now we know why Ferry suddenly remembered he had family in Atlanta...
That is about as disturbing a quote as I can expect after what seemed like a pretty good day.
Basically, it was a prereq of the job.
I'll let it go though. Nothing we can do but hope Gentry improves...at age 65.
Posted on 4/17/19 at 1:52 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:
That is about as disturbing a quote as I can expect after what seemed like a pretty good day.
Basically, it was a prereq of the job.
Not necessarily.
Truth is a lot of people around the league have a much higher opinion of Gentry than our fanbase does.
Posted on 4/17/19 at 1:53 pm to eyeran
Like I said, it is what it is.
He's a nice man that Gayle loves. Shitty way to do business but the Griffin hire was a really good one.
As long as its 1 year and he's gone, and Griffin can hire whomever he wants at that point.
He's a nice man that Gayle loves. Shitty way to do business but the Griffin hire was a really good one.
As long as its 1 year and he's gone, and Griffin can hire whomever he wants at that point.
Posted on 4/17/19 at 1:54 pm to Bronc
Go ask the other 29 fan bases what they think of their coach. And their GM. My guess is there would be like a 12% approval rating, and that might be high.
This post was edited on 4/17/19 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 4/17/19 at 1:57 pm to Crewz
Dwane Casey had 59 wins, won coach of the year and was HATED so much he got fired.
This post was edited on 4/17/19 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 4/17/19 at 1:57 pm to Bronc
quote:Don't think that is the issue. The concern is that the owner appears to have dictated the coach to the new POBO (who is supposed to have autonomy). Maybe Griffin felt it was not a big deal as he wanted a year to get things settled anyway and he knows Gentry. However, it is just odd given the situation.
Not necessarily.
Truth is a lot of people around the league have a much higher opinion of Gentry than our fanbase does.
Posted on 4/17/19 at 2:09 pm to Crewz
quote:
Go ask the other 29 fan bases what they think of their coach. And their GM. My guess is there would be like a 12% approval rating, and that might be high.
The coach is always the easy villain.
I remember lurking a Spurs board a couple of years ago for some reason and the talk of half a thread was that Pop was past his prime and it's probably time to call it like it is and move on.
I don't think Gentry is anywhere close to Pop, but I also don't think it is that crazy that GM's think he is solid.
Posted on 4/17/19 at 2:13 pm to eyeran
That quote could be taken a few ways. I don’t think it was a prerequisite to keep Gentry rather a discussion of would you keep him if you were given the job
Posted on 4/17/19 at 2:15 pm to NOSHAU
quote:
Don't think that is the issue. The concern is that the owner appears to have dictated the coach to the new POBO (who is supposed to have autonomy). Maybe Griffin felt it was not a big deal as he wanted a year to get things settled anyway and he knows Gentry. However, it is just odd given the situation.
I'm not seeing that any where in the quote though.
Gayle mentioning the people they interviewed all thought he was a quality coach =/= setting pre-conditions to GM's about retaining Gentry to me.
And hey, I am one of the most skeptical people of this organization, have been right there with crewz's argument in pointing out the original sinners(though not the only problem) were the Benson's in how things have gone up til now, but in this instance, I think we can rest easy that Gayle is micromanaging unless there is some part of that quote I missed.
This post was edited on 4/17/19 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 4/17/19 at 2:22 pm to Bronc
quote:
I'm not seeing that any where in the quote though.
Gayle mentioning the people they interviewed all thought he was a quality coach =/= setting pre-conditions to GM's about retaining Gentry to me.
I agree, I read it the same way you did. Just because they all thought he should remain doesn't mean it was pushed as a requirement.
Posted on 4/17/19 at 2:29 pm to CE Tiger
Griffin has turned down head executive gigs because he 'didn't find his owner.' I assume the preqs for Griff was all that we've heard from analytics, scouting, etc but also full autonomy to do what he wants
Gayle coming in and saying "you cannot fire Al" doesn't sound like autonomy. Even if Griff wanted to keep Alvin, Gayle saying that would've been seen as less than full autonomy and I assume Griff would've been out.
Gayle coming in and saying "you cannot fire Al" doesn't sound like autonomy. Even if Griff wanted to keep Alvin, Gayle saying that would've been seen as less than full autonomy and I assume Griff would've been out.
Posted on 4/17/19 at 2:31 pm to Bronc
quote:
I'm not seeing that any where in the quote though.
Uh what? The words were specific:
quote:
agreed to keep Alvin Gentry on as head coach.
They agreed to keep Alvin Gentry on as Head Coach. In other words: She asked them to keep Gentry on and they agreed.
Posted on 4/17/19 at 2:40 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:
In other words: She asked them to keep Gentry on and they agreed.
Not necessarily.
Gayle: "Would you keep Gentry if you were hired?"
Griffin/other candidates: "Yes."
Quote: "All candidates agreed to keep Gentry."
This post was edited on 4/17/19 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 4/17/19 at 2:40 pm to Crewz
quote:
It would be easy to win people back over.
I don't think it would. It would take some time, a good year or two.
quote:
Lebron actually left a city on live TV and they welcomed him back with open arms after a little taste of what it would be like without him for a few years
Lebron was from that city. Lebron made that team a title contender before he left, and when he came back, they knew they were going to be title contenders again. AD has gotten us to two winning seasons in 7 seasons. The going got tough and he gave up. He's been a quiet primadonna, until recently, and if he had smart people around him, they'd tell him to stfu and go back to being quiet AD.
I don't want him, and i'm pretty sure no one on the current team really wants him back either, even if they say publicly they do.
Posted on 4/17/19 at 2:41 pm to Crewz
quote:
It would be easy to win people back over. Just say he got some bad advice, throw Dell under the bus, etc etc
I think Boogie making Dell the villain in his story of poor decision making has paved the way for making this an easy narrative to sell to the media. I do like that Griffin said you're either all the way in or all the way out regarding AD/Klutch. My main question is, unless they win the lottery, how will things be different if AD sticks around? They still don't have enough to be more than a bubble playoff team.
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