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re: Pelicans vs. Clippers | Pels victorious
Posted on 11/11/17 at 9:26 pm to DJ3K
Posted on 11/11/17 at 9:26 pm to DJ3K
Thought cousins played great defensively against DJ.
Diallo played much better than than previous games.
Majority of the game i didn't know jrue was playing. How he goes from dominating a game to barely being noticeable in the next is dumbfounding.
Diallo played much better than than previous games.
Majority of the game i didn't know jrue was playing. How he goes from dominating a game to barely being noticeable in the next is dumbfounding.
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Posted on 11/11/17 at 9:38 pm to TeddyPadillac
Him and boogie need better decision making. 15 turnovers to 13 assists is not good.
Posted on 11/11/17 at 10:30 pm to htran90
Yeah without the mass of turnovers, this game is a cakewalk. We had a bunch of guys play well tonight but never could just put it away early due to turnovers. If only we had a true floor general **cough***Rondo**cough.
This post was edited on 11/11/17 at 10:31 pm
Posted on 11/12/17 at 12:01 am to htran90
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Him and boogie need better decision making. 15 turnovers to 13 assists is not good.
I feel like this team can live with Boogie's turnovers(tuned down a decent bit), since he does so much else, but when you have Jrue, your starting point guard, contributing 8 of his own, its just not sustainable. Boogie's critical flaw has to be offset by role players that are above average in taking care of the ball.
I think for the long-term success of this team Rondo really better magically unlock the Jrue no one has ever seen, take away all those possessions he turns the ball over, because you can't have two high usage players turning the ball over this much.
Posted on 11/12/17 at 12:17 am to TeddyPadillac
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Diallo played much better than than previous games.
Night and day TBH. That drive from the top of the arc to the hoop was AD esque. Honestly looked even quicker than AD which is saying something. Kid has all the tools to be something.
If Diallo can play like this on a consistent basis he will not only be a pivotal and quality role player this season, but could turn himself into a pretty nice asset for a team starved of them.
I hope that was a corner turning game for him. He certainly looked like a different player. 20 minutes, no turnovers, was mostly in the right position defensively, made smart offensive plays, set good screens, and boxed our and boarded well. Cant ask for much more than that from a raw second year guy.
This post was edited on 11/12/17 at 12:21 am
Posted on 11/12/17 at 1:23 am to bonhoeffer45
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Posted on 11/12/17 at 6:53 am to bonhoeffer45
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I feel like this team can live with Boogie's turnovers(tuned down a decent bit), since he does so much else, but when you have Jrue, your starting point guard, contributing 8 of his own, its just not sustainable. Boogie's critical flaw has to be offset by role players that are above average in taking care of the ball.
I think for the long-term success of this team Rondo really better magically unlock the Jrue no one has ever seen, take away all those possessions he turns the ball over, because you can't have two high usage players turning the ball over this much.
Agreed, people mention jokic but cousins does more than him so naturally the turnovers will be higher.
The concern is how is jrue averaging the 2nd highest turnovers (3.4) of his career (highest 3.7).
It makes no sense, it needs to be at least 2:1 for him in isolation.
Also, I think we can all agree boogie and AD are playing too much as well as doing too much to set themselves up, we honestly better hope rondo does help or this play won't be sustainable.
Posted on 11/12/17 at 7:17 am to htran90
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people mention jokic but cousins does more than him so naturally the turnovers will be higher.
Jokic is a smarter, better passer than Cousins. in general, Jokic is a more efficient player. he also plays 10 minutes less per night and has more competent players next to him.
you're right that it's not the raw TOs for Cousins; he will have a high number due to the sheer volume of what he does/is asked to do. but the problem is his TOV%. right now, it is unsustainably high at 17.5%. to go back to Jokic, he puts up assists at the same rate as Cousins, but his TOV% is 13.5%.
as for Holiday, this is what can happen when you switch a guy's role in the prime of his career. he's always run the offense, now he's not. it's not automatic for a guy to just start playing a different way.
Posted on 11/12/17 at 7:38 am to corndeaux
ATL or other regulars, how did CD look on D?
Posted on 11/12/17 at 8:49 am to bonhoeffer45
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feel like this team can live with Boogie's turnovers(tuned down a decent bit)
Tuned down a decent bit? Well ya because 4 is a normal number. 8 isn't. Last night was the first game of 7+ turnovers from Boog that we've won and only because we drastically out shot an undermanned team playing on a B2B.
Posted on 11/12/17 at 8:50 am to Solo
Diallo looks like a hyper kid jacked up on sugar and caffeine. He’s not going to get it this season. He needs minutes to make mistakes so he can learn.
One example is a guard was attacking the basket on the opposite side of the floor from him. AD was switched onto this guard and actually blocked him, but Diallo rotated over, leaving DeAndre Jordan. His body was poised for jumping and blocking. If the guard had beaten AD he’d have had an easy pass around Diallo to get Jordan an easy layup or dunk. Diallo’s body should have been positioned to take away the pass. He’s quick enough and had enough of a size advantage that he could have waited for the last minute to switch to block mode.
I’ve watched the defense with and without both AD/DC and the answer to why the defense is so good with both is as simple as you have 2 rim protectors in. Sometimes they work together like AD changed a Lou Williams shot in the post which missed and Boogie rebounded on the other side. But I think the real advantage is you always have a rim protector in position under the basket. This helps transition defense, it really helps when the other team draws a big out of the paint, and it’s big for rebounding which ends possessions and limits 2nd chance points.
One example is a guard was attacking the basket on the opposite side of the floor from him. AD was switched onto this guard and actually blocked him, but Diallo rotated over, leaving DeAndre Jordan. His body was poised for jumping and blocking. If the guard had beaten AD he’d have had an easy pass around Diallo to get Jordan an easy layup or dunk. Diallo’s body should have been positioned to take away the pass. He’s quick enough and had enough of a size advantage that he could have waited for the last minute to switch to block mode.
I’ve watched the defense with and without both AD/DC and the answer to why the defense is so good with both is as simple as you have 2 rim protectors in. Sometimes they work together like AD changed a Lou Williams shot in the post which missed and Boogie rebounded on the other side. But I think the real advantage is you always have a rim protector in position under the basket. This helps transition defense, it really helps when the other team draws a big out of the paint, and it’s big for rebounding which ends possessions and limits 2nd chance points.
Posted on 11/12/17 at 8:57 am to TigerinATL
Thanks for the great analysis. I hope they stick with him and try and develop him...
Posted on 11/12/17 at 9:05 am to corndeaux
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Jokic is a smarter, better passer than Cousins. in general, Jokic is a more efficient player. he also plays 10 minutes less per night and has more competent players next to him.
Did you see the bird write tweet?
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*Looks at schedule* Denver next Friday? Y'all go ahead and talk up Jokic all you can this week. Please. Tell everyone how he's better than Boogie. Everyday.
Thought those dudes were supposed to be smart
Posted on 11/12/17 at 9:34 am to TeddyPadillac
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Thought cousins played great defensively against DJ.
My favorite moment of the night: DC and DJ were going at it all night. Before the ball would be put into play they'd already be pushing up against each other for position, elbowing each other, etc. Then on one play they are going at it and DeMarcus reaches over and tugs on one of DeAndre's dreads, then DeAndre playfully slaps DC in the head.
Posted on 11/12/17 at 9:39 am to Solo
Diallo looked scared to be aggressive on d, as if he couldn't trust himself to not foul, and he did just fine.
If he could play more like he did last night, get more experience, get better over the season, it will help us greatly.
If he could play more like he did last night, get more experience, get better over the season, it will help us greatly.
Posted on 11/12/17 at 10:10 am to TeddyPadillac
Josh Smith being waived should get Diallo more minutes. That drive to the basket was prob the best offensive move he's ever made. Willie Reed and Montrezl Harrell are decent enough, athletic back up bigs and he held his own. Had a few hiccups on D but overall good game for him
Posted on 11/12/17 at 10:41 am to GynoSandberg
You can see the talent but also just how raw Diallo is. On one play he was in perfect position to draw a charge but sort of just stood there awkwardly with his side to the offensive player and a blocking foul was called. Give him a few years and I think he'll get there.
Posted on 11/12/17 at 10:52 am to Solo
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ATL or other regulars, how did CD look on D
He didn’t have any consistent lapses that I saw. Everyone gets beat every now and then. He did have maybe the highlight of the night when he Axe Kicked his man across both arms to prevent the dunk after getting caught in the air. No easy buckets around Diallo!
Jordan and Griffin never put their handprints on the game and Diallo was asked to play 19 minutes, mostly against one of the two. Some Herrell but I was particularly paying attention to the DJ and BG matchups and he saw a lot of those two.
Odd pairing to say “you’re in kid”. But he produced easily his best game as a pro. We absolutely needed him last night to step up and he did.
Posted on 11/12/17 at 11:06 am to ShamelessPel
it's gonna be up and down for him. last night was promising.
i would go the other way, actually. Clips will play big more than most teams. obviously a risk b/c Griffin/Jordan are very good.
but i like what has happened with him, whether intentional or not. DNP-CD for a tricky road trip, minutes v a more traditional team to start a home stand.
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Odd pairing to say “you’re in kid”
i would go the other way, actually. Clips will play big more than most teams. obviously a risk b/c Griffin/Jordan are very good.
but i like what has happened with him, whether intentional or not. DNP-CD for a tricky road trip, minutes v a more traditional team to start a home stand.
Posted on 11/12/17 at 11:13 am to GynoSandberg
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*Looks at schedule* Denver next Friday? Y'all go ahead and talk up Jokic all you can this week. Please. Tell everyone how he's better than Boogie. Everyday.
Thought those dudes were supposed to be smart
lol. these are the same guys that published this article
nothing against Cook. i wish him the best and hope he has a long, fruitful career but here's the headline:
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The first 14 games of his NBA career has put Quinn Cook in some rather elite company
Despite insufficient minutes in the league, Cook should already be considered an integral part of the New Orleans Pelicans roster.
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