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re: Official Pelicans Free Agency Thread(Updated with transactions)

Posted on 7/7/14 at 2:32 pm to
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 2:32 pm to
i think yall are underestimating bosh
he was a 20/10 beast w/the raps, mostly on the post
he has a deadly mid range shot, now can shoot 3's, and plays smart defense

plus he's well regarded as a teammate, and has the hardware to command respect, unlike harden & howard. it might sound silly but i think bosh would quickly become the alpha dog on that team, for the better
Posted by LosLobos111
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 2:39 pm to
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To be fair though, he's a much better player than Birdman.


Yeah he was legit in CHA
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 2:44 pm to
Danny Granger to the Heat. 2 years 4.2.

Basically the BAE.
Posted by LosLobos111
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 2:49 pm to
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bosh/howard/harden/parsons plus MLE-types, rookie deals and ring chasing vets...sounds a lot like the heat (with the obvious exception that nobody else is lebron)

that team doesnt need an elite point guard, and it only needs 2 or 3 solid bench guys


Howard/Harden/Bosh would make 57 mil combined.

You have beverly(1 mil)/Cannann(1 mil)/Garcia(1.3 mil)

That's 61 Mil on the books and it's curious if they'll find decent depth with not much space.

Parsons might be gone too if someone offers 12 mil(dallas wants him)

quote:

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA · 7m
Free agent Danny Granger has agreed to a two-year, $4.2 million deal with the Miami Heat, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.
Posted by quail man
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 2:52 pm to
Heat are going to be so old
Posted by THRILLHO
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 2:53 pm to
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Parsons might be gone too if someone offers 12 mil(dallas wants him)



The Rockets owner preached his willingness to pay the tax when luring Howard, so I'd bet on Parsons staying.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 2:59 pm to
tax line is $77MM
rox will have plenty of room above the cap to re-sign parsons, and as above, have indicated they'll pay the tax for a couple years if necessary

bosh/parsons/howard/beverley/harden is pretty strong first 5, plus they'll still have jones, montiejunas and casspi
Posted by LosLobos111
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 3:05 pm to
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ax line is $77MM
rox will have plenty of room above the cap to re-sign parsons, and as above, have indicated they'll pay the tax for a couple years if necessary

bosh/parsons/howard/beverley/harden is pretty strong first 5, plus they'll still have jones, montiejunas and casspi


That bench scares no one

Posted by LosLobos111
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 3:06 pm to
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?@SamAmicoFSO 2m
Cavs especially active in trade talks today, I'm told. "We are going to make some moves, soon," says team source.

Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 3:09 pm to
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That bench scares no one


the only bench that scared anyone this year was the spurs. OKC's bench sucks, portland's bench was adequate, clips was mediocre

denver has been trying to years to win with depth, and gotten nowhere

houston would have the full MLE and the BAE to work with
This post was edited on 7/7/14 at 3:11 pm
Posted by c on z
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 3:12 pm to
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That bench scares no one

As I have said before that sounds all too familiar.
Posted by Epic Cajun
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 3:14 pm to
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That bench scares no one


Terrence Jones is a better player than most teams have coming off the bench, IMO. Agree about the rest though.

ETA: spelling
This post was edited on 7/7/14 at 3:15 pm
Posted by ShamelessPel
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 3:16 pm to
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it might sound silly but i think bosh would quickly become the alpha dog on that team, for the better


It sounds more than silly. It sounds ridiculous. Again, I'm all for anything that involves the Rockets running less offense through D12.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 3:23 pm to
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i think yall are underestimating bosh


This. He fits about as well as anyone with Harden and Howard. A stretch 4/5 that doesn't need touches and can pass? A big who can play defense from the 3pt line to the rim?

Still questions about Howard and Harden, but Bosh (outside of LeBron) is probably the best guy they could add to those 2.
Posted by LosLobos111
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 3:25 pm to
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the only bench that scared anyone this year was the spurs


Look who won the title

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OKC's bench sucks,


Ehh I would put them at mediocre. Jackson/Lamb/Adams/Jones III isn't a bad start.

quote:

clips was mediocre


I'm no clips fan but that's false.

Collison(last year)Crawford/Redick/Dudley/Davis

That ain't mediocre.

quote:

denver has been trying to years to win with depth, and gotten nowhere


Health was a big problem for them





Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 3:34 pm to
i'm enjoying the convo so keep it coming


1) if everyone could team-build like the spurs they'd be doing it
2) adams & jackson can play, lamb & jones3 did nothing. shite they had derek fisher playing crunch time minutes
3) clips were desperate for any live body to sub in for griffin/jordan, and had nothing. davis is a minus at both ends and dudley did nothing of note
4) denver has been the league's deepest team (on paper) outside of the spurs for a while now. you would think that if anyone could survive injuries it would be them, but they didnt. they need a star and i guarantee you they'd trade depth for a stud right now and live with a thinner bench

bosh on the rockets would be bad news for the rest of the league
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 3:36 pm to
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bosh on the rockets would be bad news for the rest of the league


100% agree
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 3:41 pm to
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Sam Amico @SamAmicoFSO · 52s

After Heat have signed Danny Granger and Josh McRoberts, source with knowledge says "get ready," they likely have another move coming.

Also told some others pursued by Heat (Pau Gasol, Trevor Ariza, Luol Deng) are not interested in "the small money."


It seems like they would be out of exceptions besides the minimum. What move do they have left that you would have to "get ready" for it? Not resigning Wade and trading Eric Gordon into his cap space?
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 3:44 pm to
3:13 PM
Amin Elhassan

Lot of ppl pointing out Miami's $2.2M trade exception. Chances of them acquiring Morrow via that is slim for several reasons:
3:13 PM
Amin Elhassan

1. gotta get other team to agree to S&T with you (that's big)
2. Gotta get FA to agree to $2.2M salary (also big...remember: Meeks got $19M)

Amin Elhassan

3. Even if you get points 1 and 2 down, you have to have something of worth to send back to other team (otherwise, why would they do it?)

Amin Elhassan

And, of course, this RT @MarkDeeksNBA: @AminESPN Also can't bring in players via sign & trades if they finish above the apron after trade.



Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 3:44 pm to
Ya'll are freaking out about a 30 year old who changed his game to a more perimeter oriented approach in Miami. Yes, people forget what a badass Bosh was in Toronto. People are also assuming that the Rockets will get Bosh from Toronto, which is what they damn well better be getting for $24m/year.
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