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re: Official Free Agency and Trade Thread: Latest Pels sign Charles Cooke to 2 way

Posted on 7/13/17 at 12:25 pm to
Posted by LosLobos111
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 12:25 pm to
Or its to dump asik and get Lee/Dudley

Or could be another tinfoil leak

This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 12:26 pm
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 12:36 pm to
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Michael Scotto? @MikeAScotto 3 minutes ago

Can confirm Pelicans interest in Rajon Rondo. Trade talks stalling for Reggie Jackson. DeMarcus Cousins wants Rondo.
Posted by SLafourche07
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 12:38 pm to
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DeMarcus Cousins wants Rondo.




Posted by LosLobos111
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 12:40 pm to
Yeah makes sense

He'd be way less expensive and less risky than jackson(albiet with lower upside)

If we can get something good from the 4 way ill be stoked
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 12:56 pm to
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Or its to dump asik and get Lee/Dudley


Playing around in the trade machine, the only players you need to make the trade work salary wise are

Knicks - Asik, Quarterman, Onuaku
Rockets - Melo
Suns - Ryno
Pels - Dudley


The Knicks owe Melo $54 million, Asik and 2 Rockets on rookie minimum deals cut that bill in half. They may not need any more compensation since they are ready to move on from Melo. We'd trade Asik for another team's Ajinca in a heart beat, that's basically what the Knicks would be doing here with Melo for Asik instead of Ryno who is owed more money than Melo.

So now you need to pay Phoenix to take Ryno, taking Dudley covers about 1/3 of the bill. It seems like the Pels might have met their obligations and the rest of the bill should be due to Houston, no?
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 3:58 pm
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 1:05 pm to
i get why the Knicks wouldnt want Anderson's deal. same time, i see some allure in playing him next to Porzingis.

Hardway is likely a bad deal, but the makings of something interesting, on offense at least, w/ Hardaway, Anderson, KP frontline.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 1:13 pm to
thats the dream scenario for pels...dump asik without a pick and get back a semi-useful player on a good deal

regarding anything else back to PHX, a future rockets pick is pretty worthless, you'd think they'd want a NYK or pels pick. knicks arent gonna take asik AND send a pick...
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 1:17 pm
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 3:53 pm to
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regarding anything else back to PHX, a future rockets pick is pretty worthless


Sounds like a Houston problem. It's not our fault they gave up most of the goodies in the CP3 S&T, something that usually never happens in situations where a star player is just leaving. I'm still pissed that they left the Clippers on the verge of relevance.

quote:

knicks arent gonna take asik AND send a pick


You are suggesting we send a pick to dump $25 million, well as I just laid out, we are saving the Knicks about $25 million, so why do they get out of sending a pick? They're the ones with the disgruntled player they stupidly gave a no trade clause to. It's our problem that they don't want Ryno? This all goes back to Houston not having the right expendable liquid assets. Maybe it will cost them Ariza or Gordon or Capella to get CP3 his banana boat buddy.

Would I rather pay a 2nd to turn Asik into Dudley than leave this trade and have to stretch Asik? Probably. But I see Dudley as a slightly better Cunningham at twice the price of what we could bring back Dante for, so I'd rather stretch Asik and bring back Cunningham than use a 1st to dump Asik.
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 3:57 pm
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 4:17 pm to
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Shams Charania? @ShamsCharania
Utah has waived forward Boris Diaw ahead of guarantee date, league sources tell The Vertical.
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 8:31 pm to
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Chris Haynes? @ChrisBHaynes
ESPN Sources: Free agent Derrick Rose, Milwaukee Bucks continue dialogue.
Posted by SuperSoakher
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 8:46 pm to
Dudley is an expiring next year? If we can turn Asik into Dudley straight up, that would be a huge win.
Posted by ShamelessPel
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 9:01 pm to
NM Asik for Dudley straight up may be a stupid trade. Asik's extra non guaranteed year makes his stretch more valuable, and there's a real chance Dudley may never play meaningful ball again.

Thought the "expiring next year" post meant one year left.
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 9:16 pm
Posted by Hazelnut
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 9:04 pm to
nvm
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 9:05 pm
Posted by TigerinATL
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 9:04 pm to
Dudley makes $10 this year and $9.5 next.
Posted by ShamelessPel
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 9:22 pm to
Can we just have the Rondo shoe drop so we know we added SOMEONE this offseason that has potential to be a real difference maker.
Posted by CocoLoco
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 10:45 pm to
We are thirsty af
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 10:51 pm to
quote:

David Aldridge? @daldridgetnt
Source says Jonathan Simmons signing is “imminent."

doesn't say with who though
Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
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Member since May 2009
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 10:54 pm to
I know who it won't be
Posted by teke184
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 11:15 pm to
Word on RealGM was that the Suns were getting him in a sign and trade before the Spurs decided they didn't want to eat Tyson Chandler's contract.
Posted by SuperSoakher
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 7/14/17 at 12:11 am to
Asik may never play meaningful ball again. He can't even play meaningful bench
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