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re: Official Free Agency and Trade Thread: Latest Pels sign Charles Cooke to 2 way

Posted on 7/13/17 at 7:42 am to
Posted by Mystictiger
Florida
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 7:42 am to
You're right, he was just joking. I was going off memory from that tweet from earlier this offseason
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 7:45 am to
I still think Bledsoe is the target for the pels
he makes the most sense

if they somehow shed dead salary, get under the tax preserving roster options, and get a bonafide NBA guard, I'll happliy apologize to demps for saying mean things to him. There is a bunch of moving parts though and they are 100% dependent on other teams to make it happen
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 7:50 am to
crewz

quote:

Bledsoe has been the top target from the beginning. Lin, Jackson, others seem more gettable. This can play out any number of ways
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 7:52 am to
I hope it's Bledsoe as I think he would be great for getting Boogie retained. However I wonder what the price would be. If we could dump Asik and Anjica in the Melo deal with 2nds for Ryno and then flip Ryno for Reggie Jackson, that would be a coup. We would then have room to use the rest of MLE and still have our 2018 1st at the deadline with Moore's contract to upgrade.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 7:54 am to
I would think the pick and Moore would go out in one of those transactions
if not I don't see how they wind up with a player and without asik
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 7:56 am
Posted by TigerinATL
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 7:58 am to
quote:

I would think the pick and Moore would go out in one of those transactions
if not I don't see how they wind up with a player and without asik


It's because the Pels would be the team taking the most undesirable contract in the deal, Ryan Anderson. I still don't think he fits the role available on the team for the salary he's making, but I suppose $20 million of Ryno fits a lot better than $20 million of Asik/Ajinca and QPon's ghost.
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 8:00 am
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 8:02 am to
Similar to what NOFOX was thinking

quote:

Pelicans Podcaster? @SilverAndMac 1 minute ago

One possible iteration: Asik, Qpon, Ajinca, Moore out. Ryno and Dudley in. Then, flip Ryno for Jackson.

Pels get their guard and shooter. Still have exceptions and future picks

Posted by pawel
Warsaw, Poland
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 8:05 am to
If no picks outgoing
I am all for it


I like Dudley. Gentry knows him well.
Posted by MrPel
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 8:05 am to
I doubt anything happens until after summer league. Am worried we might have to attach a Cook/Diallo in a trade to shed Asik. Both have played solid in summer league.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 8:07 am to
quote:

I doubt anything happens until after summer league


Do you really think they'd hold up a 4 team trade for Summer League to finish? If Diallo or Cook are in the deal then McMillan is just going to have to win the title without them.
Posted by Jizzamo311
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 8:09 am to
quote:

I doubt anything happens until after summer league. Am worried we might have to attach a Cook/Diallo in a trade to shed Asik. Both have played solid in summer league.


shite some of y'all realllllllly over value summer league.

When the big boys are involved in deals, they don't give a shite about the fricking summer league...
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 8:10 am to
quote:


Do you really think they'd hold up a 4 team trade for Summer League to finish? If Diallo or Cook are in the deal then McMillan is just going to have to win the title without them.




Yeah, I think the only thing holding it up is that 4 team deals are just really difficult to complete. One team getting cold feet can throw everything off. They aren't waiting on summer league as the main
players NYK and HOU have the desire to get this done now.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37083 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 8:10 am to
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Who says no? Pels give Phoenix two first round picks, and give Knicks cash. Rockets give Knicks a first round pick and Suns a second round pick.
Posted by Zach Lee To Amp Hill
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 8:15 am to
i'm afraid for the Pels to trade QPon because then we'll find out all the fricked up shite they did to his knee.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 8:16 am to
I think the Suns say no. The one Kumar came up with was more favorable to the Suns. In that one they dumped Dudley on us, which they already tried to do before the draft, and they only had to take back Ryno and QPon. They sent out about $50 million in salary commitments and got $64 back. In this trade you came up with Phoenix sends out $29 and takes $109 million back.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 8:21 am to
Who's taking Asik? Or is he not being dumped in that scenario?
Posted by pawel
Warsaw, Poland
Member since Oct 2016
788 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 8:27 am to
PHX wants to dump Dudley (19,5 millions)
Asik is owed 35 millions guaranteed

15 million difference is not so big. with a sweetener. will it be a pick or Moore on a great contract
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 8:27 am to
quote:

Who's taking Asik?


Nobody. But at that point you have all the motivation you need to stretch him so you can use exceptions to fill out the rest of the roster.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 8:28 am to
He was talking about the trade Kumar posted on twitter last night. We get Bledsoe and Dudley but are stuck with Asik.



Posted by pawel
Warsaw, Poland
Member since Oct 2016
788 posts
Posted on 7/13/17 at 8:34 am to
ok. understand.

without outgoing picks from NO? nice
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