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re: Official 2018 Pelicans Offseason Thread

Posted on 7/1/18 at 7:51 pm to
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
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Posted on 7/1/18 at 7:51 pm to
Lakers surprisingly are a good fit. Saw a tweet from the Lakers SN site that Randle doesn’t want to return. I mean I know you said they aren’t really interested Crewz but if they’d give us Randle in a S&T LOL
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 7/1/18 at 7:56 pm to
I’d think they’d need Randle on the table for Kawhi, no?
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
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Posted on 7/1/18 at 7:58 pm to
Probably I was saying that for fun. Randle is now an interesting piece regardless.
Posted by SoFresh
New Orleans
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Posted on 7/1/18 at 8:02 pm to
He’s undersized and his range is 10’
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 7/1/18 at 8:05 pm to
Randle isn’t what we need. We would want Kuzma or Ingram but this is all academic.
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 7/1/18 at 8:06 pm to
I’m team S&T but can the Lakers even do it at this point ?
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 7/1/18 at 8:06 pm to
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The Lakers also still have cap flexibility available to continue exploring options like DeMarcus Cousins or Clint Capela in free agency, as cap experts Albert Nahmad and Bobby Marks detail. Accommodating James’ new max deal would reduce L.A.’s cap space to about $13.4MM, and the team is reportedly re-signing Kentavious Caldwell-Pope to a $12MM deal.

However, the team could re-open substantial space by trading or stretching Luol Deng, or by renouncing Julius Randle. Deng has an $18MM salary for 2018/19, while Randle’s cap hold is $12,447,727. The Lakers will also have the $4.4MM room exception available once they use up all their cap space.
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 7/1/18 at 8:08 pm to
They won't be able to trade Deng and take back zero. Even if they stretch him and renounce Randle, they can't get to 25 mil, let alone the one year, 28 Boogie would demand so that he can get to the max if he plays well.

Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
6124 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 8:13 pm to
I think signing LeBron makes moving Deng infinitely more difficult because I think they would have had to send a 1st out too and that first just became less valuable...
This post was edited on 7/1/18 at 8:13 pm
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 7/1/18 at 8:13 pm to
I see

Just saw blurb that Brook lopez is likely heading back to LA
Posted by THRILLHO
Old Metairie near Cleary
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Posted on 7/1/18 at 8:14 pm to
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Keith Smith ? Verified account @KeithSmithNBA Follow Follow @KeithSmithNBA More Hearing Brook Lopez is a good bet to return to the Lakers. LA probably out of the running for DeMarcus Cousins after using a good amount of cap space to retain Kentavious Caldwell-Pope.


Does Boogie even have another suitor? I wonder if Dell would lower his offer to Boogie, just like he did with the Kings in the trade...
Posted by DeionDeion
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Posted on 7/1/18 at 8:16 pm to
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Let's CORRECT that: NEW YORK has agreed to a deal with Hezonja, league source tells ESPN.


In other news....
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27834 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 8:16 pm to
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Portland has agreed to a one-year, $6.5M deal with Mario Hezonja, league source tell ESPN.


Kinda wish the Pels got in on Mario at that price

Woj mistyped. Actually to NYK
This post was edited on 7/1/18 at 8:18 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 7/1/18 at 8:17 pm to
Hasn’t he sucked?
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 8:18 pm to
The core of the offer has been on the table for a while. What he might change, or threaten to change is the options, incentives, etc. But they won't demolish Boogie just because they probably can
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27834 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 8:18 pm to
44% shooting last year, 33.7 from 3

6’8, athletic and a former top 5 pick.

At that price ...
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
6124 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 8:21 pm to
You kind of feel for Boogie in a sense because he's been a model citizen/employee in his time in NOLA and was almost guaranteed a max deal before the injury. Hopefully he sees the mutual benefits here and bets on himself to come out the other side.
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 8:33 pm to
I want to see the alternative universe where he didn't get hurt. They were really starting to click. The only thing I wonder on the negative side is if Jrue would have made the leap he did in the playoffs if Boogie never goes down

Regardless, I want to see that universe
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/1/18 at 8:38 pm to
Yeah. Pels would've hosted a playoff series and probably take a few from rox/warriors and put the league on notice.
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
6124 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 8:43 pm to
I agree. That's the argument I have with people here all the time that tell me the Pels are better without him. You don't get "better" by losing a guy that gives you 25/13. They won 7 of 8 and I think the Niko trade would have happened regardless. I'm with you, I don't know if Jrue makes the strides he does but he was playing well before the injury too. He played pretty consistent from mid December onwards I think.

I'm all for bringing him back and think is the most realistic and sensible outcome. I think the trade market is where we have to find someone or take advantages of the oversaturation of guards on the market and convince someone of opportunity costs here.
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