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re: Official 2018 Pelicans Offseason Thread

Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:03 am to
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:03 am to
Interesting that of the two guys mentioned by Crewz, Joe Harris is in ESPN’s Top 50 FAs (35) and GR3 is not.
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:10 am to
The difference between the 28th best free agent in this class and the 72nd is negligible. All about the opportunity they are given on the team they go to. Joe Harris would be out of the league if he signed with some team that didn't have minutes to give him 2 years ago. Instead, he got minutes, was given the green light, and got good coaching and now he is "#35"

There are like 100 guys in the whole world who would be very good no matter where they go. I have always believed that the only thing separating the #223 guy in the world from #1,223 is opportunity and fit. The Pels need to find a piece that fits well and also need to be able to give him the opportunity to fail, so that he can really succeed.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130142 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:12 am to
I’m simply commenting on how ESPN judges guys. I would have thought GR3 would be higher up.
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:14 am to
They look at stats. And Robinson's counting stats when you look at them without context aren't impressive. You are betting on those small flashes becoming more of the norm. While Harris actually produced so you don't have to project as much.

Its classic high floor, lower ceiling vs the inverse
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:24 am to
I’d like either, but I lean a little more toward Harris
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130142 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:27 am to
Harris’s 3 pt shooting would be a really nice help for us.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30315 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:46 am to
Dougie mcbuckets will likely be available, although hes basically just Darius Miller.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:49 am to
It’d be nice to pick up any of these shooters as a Miller replacement on a long term deal for a little less than the TP MLE. We don’t want Miller leveraging the Pels into a Max (MLE level) pay raise next year.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
32270 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 10:14 am to
quote:

It’d be nice to pick up any of these shooters as a Miller replacement on a long term deal for a little less than the TP MLE. We don’t want Miller leveraging the Pels into a Max (MLE level) pay raise next year.



That and if I can get a bench wing who is a 3pt specialist, I'll take him over Miller.

Dude is a great shooter, but the amount of times he fouls a 3pt shooter makes me wanna flip a table.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130142 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 10:18 am to
Miller has turned himself into a good low volume 3 pt shooter. That’s nice to have. But he really doesn’t give you anything else at all.
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
6124 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 3:43 pm to
Would this deal be legal and would any of the teams involved do it?

Pels trade Cousins, Moore, Solo, 2019 1st
Receive Porter, Satoransky, Lopez

Wizards trade Porter, Satoransky, 2 2nds
Receive Cousins, Valentine

Bulls trade Lopez, Valentine
Receive Moore, Solo, picks
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13718 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 4:39 pm to
With all the guards available in free agency, I wonder if Elfrid Payton could be had on a minimum contract.
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
6124 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 6:29 pm to
Pels are meeting with Monroe on Monday according to Sharief Ishaq
This post was edited on 6/30/18 at 6:31 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130142 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 6:48 pm to
Meh. I wouldn’t want to pay Monroe much money as a 4th big.

Assuming we resign Boogie, Monroe would get a good amount of minutes early in the season and then not a lot after the ASB.

If it’s a very very cheap deal, could be a useful player.
Posted by WB504
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
6130 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:23 pm to
quote:

quote: Bobby Marks @BobbyMarks42 With the cap projected at $116M in 2020-21, Anthony Davis will be eligible to sign a $235M super max contract with the Pelicans next summer.


Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130142 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 10:22 pm to
So Barton is getting 4/50 from the Nuggs...
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
6124 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 10:23 pm to
I’m getting the feeling that not a lot guys that have bird rights with their team are going to willfully change franchises. Too much money to pass up imo.
This post was edited on 6/30/18 at 10:32 pm
Posted by DatPelican
TX
Member since May 2018
494 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 10:31 pm to
I knew Barton would get a solid contract. He’s entering his prime years. 4 for 50 is not bad at all.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13718 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 10:56 pm to
Wow, Harris and McDermott already gone.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13718 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 11:00 pm to
Ilyasova going back to Milwaukee.
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