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Posted on 7/2/19 at 7:07 am to
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 7/2/19 at 7:07 am to
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Also, he'd angered people on Reddit by being an outspoken Trump supporter, so he'd made enemies on Reddit


The worst thing a person can be on Reddit.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 7/2/19 at 7:26 am to
According to the supposed Lakers insiders, a big part of the reason that Kawhi is choosing the Lakers is money. He'll get the same salary wherever he goes, but it's about endorsements. Kawhi should be getting a bunch of money from New Balance, but it's supposedly a lot less than others have gotten in similar situations (just like with AD's endorsement value, these guys don't factor in personality).

Anyway, the endorsement stuff is definitely part of the Lakers' push, and it's why they think they're getting him. It's all so shady and makes the salary cap a joke.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 7/2/19 at 7:28 am to
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The worst thing a person can be on Reddit.


For a gay guy living in Los Angeles, it's a bit abnormal.
Posted by JayJay2
cane sweeeeeeet tea, Luzianne
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 7/2/19 at 7:31 am to
It's amazing because he could have the whole Canadian advertising game for himself lol. And it's a big difference from old kawhi to now because you're right, even in those old Spurs commercials, he wasn't much of a factor and now he wants more endorsements?? Lol
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61670 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 7:38 am to
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choosing the Lakers is money


I realize Lakers Nation >>>>> Clippers Nation, but both are in Los Angeles. Are the endorsement opportunities really that different? Especially if you're a secondary star behind LeBron?
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 7/2/19 at 7:41 am to
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It's amazing because he could have the whole Canadian advertising game for himself lol.


You're absolutely right. I feel very certain that the Raptors presentation to Kawhi today will be about this. They are going to present a plan to him, and it might be better than what the Lakers are offering.

Until this morning, I was naively thinking that this decision was about where Kawhi wanted to play, because his salary would be the same. Nope. The decision is (at least partly) about money, and that makes sense -- why shouldn't he get what he can get? I'd do the same.

Yesterday, I couldn't understand why Kawhi would choose the Lakers over the Clippers. Now, I get it. He definitely could make more endorsement money as a Laker than he could as a Clipper. The Lakers brand is so, so much bigger, and the LeBron, AD, and Kawhi trio would be able to generate so much endorsement money together as a trio.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 7/2/19 at 7:43 am to
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Especially if you're a secondary star behind LeBron?


Part of the Lakers' pitch is LeBron promising to take a secondary role.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 7/2/19 at 7:43 am to
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Yesterday, I couldn't understand why Kawhi would choose the Lakers over the Clippers. Now, I get it. He definitely could make more endorsement money as a Laker than he could as a Clipper. The Lakers brand is so, so much bigger, and the LeBron, AD, and Kawhi trio would be able to generate so much endorsement money together as a trio.

Maybe for a year, but if he goes to the Clippers and they kick the Lakers asses, you don't think there would be a shift to some extent?
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 7:46 am to
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So, Riley Drexel isn't just the nephew of Jeanie Buss. Jeanie is the "governor" of the owners, but all six of Jerry Buss's children have an 11% ownership stake, including Janie Buss Drexel, Riley's mom. Janie was the staunch supporter of Jeanie in the ownership crisis when Jeanie took control from her older brother Jim a few years ago. Janie Buss Drexel still works in the Lakers organization as the Director of Special Events. Even though Riley works as a flight attendant, it appears that he sometimes helps his mom with organizing special events, including last fall's Pride Night (Riley is gay).

What got him doxxed on Reddit was that he'd made the exact same posts on Reddit as he had to his verified twitter account (also deleted). Also, he'd angered people on Reddit by being an outspoken Trump supporter, so he'd made enemies on Reddit.

[Edit: this is the guy who started "Kawhi is a Laker" last night.]



For some more context, because I couldn' care less about Twitter/Reddit culture wars, this is also the "insider" that said the Pels/Lakers trade was close to finished well before it actually was and it was centered around Zach Lavine and Ball, minimal picks, and wouldn't include Brandon Ingram.

And in retrospect, there has been nothing that corroborates that even being part of any discussions. Let alone on the cusp of getting finalized.

So part is honestly wishful thinking because I don't want the league upended by frickery again, but the other part is this guy has not been a reliable insider up to this point.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61670 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 7:52 am to
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Part of the Lakers' pitch is LeBron promising to take a secondary role.


That's not LeBron's decision to make. The media chooses stars and if you have 2 star players that actively avoid the spotlight and the biggest star of the last decade, I guarantee you LeBron will still be the star attraction no matter how hard he tries not to be.
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
14982 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 7:53 am to
Kawhi may end up with the Lakers, but with Drexel posting that last night, if it was true, it would almost certainly have been broken by Woj or other NBA guys by now.
Posted by Philippines4LSU
Member since May 2018
8789 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 7:53 am to
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Yesterday, I couldn't understand why Kawhi would choose the Lakers over the Clippers. Now, I get it. He definitely could make more endorsement money as a Laker than he could as a Clipper. The Lakers brand is so, so much bigger, and the LeBron, AD, and Kawhi trio would be able to generate so much endorsement money together as a trio.

Maybe for a year, but if he goes to the Clippers and they kick the Lakers asses, you don't think there would be a shift to some extent?



Chris Paul’s Clipper endorsement money was so good it followed him to Houston.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 7:56 am to
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Kawhi may end up with the Lakers, but with Drexel posting that last night, if it was true, it would almost certainly have been broken by Woj or other NBA guys by now.




I think the fact that guys like Windhorst, Woj, or Shams, guys with clear and deep connections with multiple facets of the Lakers organization, have not corroborated anything leans me toward it was another shot in the dark from an attention seeker.

That doesn't mean he couldn't still end up there, but this report seems highly skeptical at this point given the lack of any corroboration.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96897 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 7:59 am to
The Lakers are getting further and further removed from their last title.

Unless LeBron and AD (and possibly Kawhi) start making deep runs, the Clip Show could eventually overshadow them simply because the current Laker organization is a shite show while the Clippers have great management and ownership.

Ballmer himself won’t make the difference to fans but him letting West et all run things means that the on court product is good. As opposed to Jeannie telling the front office to draft local product Lonzo to sell season tickets.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116841 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 7:59 am to
It’s what attention seekers and internet “insiders do”. They take a calculated risk and see where the smoke is and take a shot.

If it doesn’t happen they say “well things changed fluid situation” and no one remembers the 100s of times they were wrong but they do remember the 1 time they were “right”.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
18139 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 8:03 am to
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That doesn't mean he couldn't still end up there, but this report seems highly skeptical at this point given the lack of any corroboration.


What makes it believable is that Riley's mom owns 11% of the Lakers, works in their front office, and is extremely close to her older sister.

That's also what makes it sketchy. Riley desperately wants it to be true that Kawhi is coming to the Lakers, so he's likely to exaggerate the certainty of it.

This morning, I think it is likely that Kawhi likely had a very good meeting with the Lakers and hinted or told them in that meeting that he was going to choose them. But that was before the pitches from the other two organizations.

I know that the Broussard tweets were deleted. Did we ever find out if he actually met with the Clippers last night? Is there proof now that Broussard was wrong when he claimed that Kawhi decided not to meet with them after all and just rejected the Clips with a phone call?
Posted by RUFshreve
Shree'pote
Member since Jul 2016
2691 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 8:03 am to
I'm just waking up and trying to get caught up. What's the latest on the Kawhi situation?
Posted by mm2316
New Orleans Pelicans Fan
Member since Aug 2010
6942 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 8:03 am to
The Lakers losing Kawhi because Jeanie Buss' nephew decided to leak information on Reddit would be an all time great NBA story line.
This post was edited on 7/2/19 at 8:05 am
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 8:05 am to
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It’s what attention seekers and internet “insiders do”. They take a calculated risk and see where the smoke is and take a shot.

If it doesn’t happen they say “well things changed fluid situation” and no one remembers the 100s of times they were wrong but they do remember the 1 time they were “right”.



That's a pretty good encapsulation.

I imagine it's a thrill like being the big baller at the casino table.

You get showered with free drinks and praise, get the endorphin rush we humans crave, and to sustain it play the odds in a way that gives you obvious outs if your bets don't pan out.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 8:09 am to
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What makes it believable is that Riley's mom owns 11% of the Lakers, works in their front office, and is extremely close to her older sister.


But then it begs the question of why he has gotten so much wrong recently?

Surely if he had this sort of unique connection no one else has, he wouldn't be striking out as badly as he has been up to this point.

I'm not dismissing the intel, but based on history, I am- I think rightfully - highly skeptical.

The rest is, no offense, blind speculation which we can all do without any effort.
This post was edited on 7/2/19 at 8:10 am
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