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re: NBADraft.net 6/24 Mock: Pels picking Nerlens Noel
Posted on 6/24/13 at 9:56 am to Fun Bunch
Posted on 6/24/13 at 9:56 am to Fun Bunch
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And provided championships for others. Every pick is a risk.
championships... we trying to win forty games and you talking about championships... championships...
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Posted on 6/24/13 at 9:59 am to Chad504boy
quote:go big or go home
championships... we trying to win forty games and you talking about championships... championships
Posted on 6/24/13 at 10:33 am to Fearthehat0307
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Noel talked to Kyle Tucker of The Courier-Journal on Sunday, and he told Tucker that the Cavs' team doctor checked out his knee during a visit to Cleveland last week. The diagnosis was very positive:
"The doctor said everything was perfect," Noel said. "All three teams I've been to said it looks 100 percent fine and I'm definitely ahead of schedule. It's all been positive feedback."
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Nerlens Noel’s guest at the Kentucky Derby was a 7-year-old leukemia patient
Noel has been touted as the stud of this draft off and on for about a year. If he falls to 6 it is probably a no brainer for the Pels FO. We don't have a future at the 5 as we sit now. Noel is light but he has shown the ability to put on the weight. Even so, a 5 can be on the light side when you have the leaping ability and wingspan that Noel does. Noel and Davis patrolling the line will pretty much cancel out the other team's ability to drive and score in the lane. People also assume they would be on the court at the same time, but that doesn't have to be the case. There is enough bigs to rotate that will keep "beef" on the floor.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 10:38 am to GynoSandberg
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"The doctor said everything was perfect," Noel said. "All three teams I've been to said it looks 100 percent fine and I'm definitely ahead of schedule. It's all been positive feedback."
That's great, but what's he going to say: "They've all told me my knee looks like shite. Do not take me for the love of God! I mean...uh...no take me seriously."
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Nerlens Noel’s guest at the Kentucky Derby was a 7-year-old leukemia patient
That's great.Posted on 6/24/13 at 10:45 am to Fun Bunch
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That's great, but what's he going to say: "They've all told me my knee looks like shite. Do not take me for the love of God! I mean...uh...no take me seriously."
Yeah, I seriously doubt any respected surgeon or doctor would say his knee looks "100 percent fine" when it is obviously not. I could buy "progressing nicely" and "ahead of schedule" isn't absurd, but fine? If it was 100 percent fine, he's be working out for teams...
Posted on 6/24/13 at 10:46 am to GynoSandberg
Getting the most talented guy in the draft with the 6th pick?
Sounds good to me
Sounds good to me
Posted on 6/24/13 at 10:46 am to GynoSandberg
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Nerlens Noel’s guest at the Kentucky Derby was a 7-year-old leukemia patient
I love when athletes/teams do things like this (Nebraska spring game, MLS team that held a scrimmage with a kid). It's such a simple gesture on their end, but it means so much to those kids.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 10:47 am to Jester
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Which is fine and all, but we're still not talking about actual basketball skill
Just to preface, I have no horse in this race. Don't particularly care whom they pick- all of thr guys mentioned would be fine with me.
To be fair, what type of skills are you looking for from a rookie big?
Noel can rebound, block shots, run the floor, and finish well at the rim- not to be overlooked as an offensive skill. He's light, but LARRY SANDERS is only 235 and he looks to be a force for years to come.
Any rookie big is a 3 year investment- even Davis.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 10:47 am to Fun Bunch
Would he lie about what team doctors said when those teams still have the chance to draft him? Maybe but that would be pretty dumb on his part.
I think if people got a chance to see Noel over the course of the whole season, then it would be clear that Noel at 6 is absolute robbery in this draft.
I think if people got a chance to see Noel over the course of the whole season, then it would be clear that Noel at 6 is absolute robbery in this draft.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 10:48 am to Jester
To be honest, I wouldn't be too upset if we took Noel at 6. I really don't see him being of much use to the Pelicans, but it helps to be in a weak draft. I just think he and Bennett are bad fits for the direction of this franchise.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 10:54 am to corndeaux
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Noel can rebound, block shots
These are the only 2 NBA skills you listed. I'm sorry, but your 5 running the floor only does so much for you. They don't exactly leak out in a well-run defense. As for finishing well at the rim, we'll see. He'll be going against bigger defenders in the NBA. Blake Griffin finishes well at the rim, but he's still quite limited offensively.
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Any rookie big is a 3 year investment- even Davis.
I know that, but Davis isn't nearly the project, and at some point we need contributors. We don't want to be the Kansas City Royals of the NBA, a farm team for the big markets.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 10:54 am to Jester
Everyone in this draft has a low floor if they don't work out
Burke could be a shorter Jerryd Bayless
McLemore could be a poor mans JR Smith
Len could be the second coming of Kostas Koufos
But I think Noel's floor is much higher than that. I think at the absolute worst he's Larry Sanders. And that would make him a top 3 shotblocker in the NBA and one of the best defensive players in the league.
And I can live with that with the 6th pick in a shitty draft
Burke could be a shorter Jerryd Bayless
McLemore could be a poor mans JR Smith
Len could be the second coming of Kostas Koufos
But I think Noel's floor is much higher than that. I think at the absolute worst he's Larry Sanders. And that would make him a top 3 shotblocker in the NBA and one of the best defensive players in the league.
And I can live with that with the 6th pick in a shitty draft
Posted on 6/24/13 at 10:55 am to danman6336
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I think at the absolute worst he's Larry Sanders. And that would make him a top 3 shotblocker in the NBA and one of the best defensive players in the league.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 10:56 am to Jester
I'm missing the humor I guess
Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:00 am to danman6336
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I'm missing the humor I guess
Obviously, you were serious when you said that. Let me break down your statement:
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I think at the absolute worst he's a top 3 shotblocker in the NBA and one of the best defensive players in the league.
If that's his floor, what the frick do you think his ceiling is? GOAT?
This post was edited on 6/24/13 at 11:02 am
Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:01 am to Jester
Killer counter argument
I'm convinced
I'm convinced
Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:02 am to Jester
Hes a center! They dont have an assembly line for centers with jump shots and back to basket games.
Rim running is one of the best and easiest ways to get points. Its a great skill to have. Now, will Monty quicken the pace is another story.
Not going to get sidetracked, but I respectfully disagree completely.
This team needs defense. Noel is the premier defensive big man. Even if he only cleans up garbage on offense, his defense will help the team this season
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They don't exactly leak out in a well-run defense
Rim running is one of the best and easiest ways to get points. Its a great skill to have. Now, will Monty quicken the pace is another story.
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Blake Griffin finishes well at the rim, but he's still quite limited offensively.
Not going to get sidetracked, but I respectfully disagree completely.
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at some point we need contributors
This team needs defense. Noel is the premier defensive big man. Even if he only cleans up garbage on offense, his defense will help the team this season
Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:04 am to Chad504boy
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DYSWIDT?
si
Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:05 am to Jester
quote:Well that was kind of my point
If that's his floor, what the frick do you think his ceiling is? GOAT?
If he has a higher floor than everyone else that means at the minimum he'll atleast be decent
I didn't mention ceilings at all in my comment, you just inferred that from my post
But please, post some more emoticons as a reply to make up for the fact you struggle with forming coherent and convincing arguments and obviously lack in some basic reading comprehension skills
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