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re: NBA Offseason officially kicks off, Ingram’s days in NOLA coming to an end per Stein

Posted on 7/12/24 at 4:38 pm to
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 7/12/24 at 4:38 pm to
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I’d offer Utah 2 unprotected 1’sts and 2 swaps and just get a Kesslertrade done. We need a big body for Jokic, Embiid, Wemby, Jonas, Sabonis, Sengun, Dallas’s 2 bigs,etc

Our picks should be in the high teens/20’s. I doubt the swaps ever convey and if they do, it won’t be extreme. Utah is going nowhere soon in a stacked west.
That is about as foolish a thing as I have heard in a while. Let's at least be serious.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30650 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 4:49 pm to
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BI needs to learn some self awareness. He needs someone to sit him down, show him Brunson’s contract and say”do you honestly think you deserve more than him?”



And then he shows you the max contract OG just got from that same team and says I’m better than him.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17861 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 4:54 pm to
OG didn’t get a max…

Knicks were also in a different position with OG, they just traded two good role players for him and he was about to leave for nothing, so they had no choice but to overpay him as they couldn’t replace him.

Completely different situation from the Pels with BI
Posted by duyp
Member since May 2011
3391 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 4:57 pm to
His dad is going to be the highest paid assistant coach. I think his wife works for the Knicks too.
This post was edited on 7/12/24 at 4:58 pm
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/12/24 at 4:58 pm to
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His dad is going to be the highest paid assistant coach. I think his wife works for the Knicks too.


He also can probably make a decent amount with local endorsement deals being the leader on a good Knicks team.
This post was edited on 7/12/24 at 4:59 pm
Posted by mhasen1
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
1867 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 5:36 pm to
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And then he shows you the max contract OG just got from that same team and says I’m better than him.


And Griffin should laugh even harder.

The Knicks were 20-3 with OG in the lineup. He is the perfect fit for them, and even better with Bridges.

Ingram is the complete opposite for the Pelicans.

Several teams were willing to max OG. Zero teams are willing to pay Ingram more than the Pelicans are already offering.
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
7913 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 6:07 pm to
Our biggest hole is center. If we fill that hole, I think we are actually a contender. As I outlined. We need a legit big, even if it means overpaying for one

And to me, 2 picks in the 20’s and 2 swaps that will never convey is a steal for a dude that is basically a cheap arse Rudy Gobert that might have the chance to improve.

Let’s go for it. Why not? Yall want to be in the play in again or do yall want to win?
Posted by beachtiger777
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/12/24 at 6:36 pm to
I think they got DJ to help break up Ingrams hold on this team look how Zion looked in that press conference unfortunately griff and Willie couldn't do it I bet our new dog will.
If they keep Ingram he's gonna split the team up in some sort of negative way or he gets on board and we roll
Posted by New City Champ
Member since Jul 2018
651 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 6:45 pm to
Do we though? Way before this situation got to where it is now with Ingram I thought a possible solution to the Pels looming cap issue was to go cheap at center. Just three serviceable guys who will hustle, defend and board. Save your money and spend it on the guys who will close the games and play in crunch time.

I think some of this debate really comes down to how important you think a top flight center is in the modern NBA? Zion is our interior scorer. We just need bigs who can defend, rebound and not clog up the lane...
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
7913 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 7:07 pm to
I really just think there are so many elite and nearly elite centers in the league that we will be toast if we go small ball and/or heavy mins to Theis and Missi. If Jokic, Embiid, Wemby, Sengun, Dallas bigs, Giannis, Sabonis, Kat/Gobert/Naz, Chet/Hartenstein,Porz, etc weren’t such threats on our competition then I’d maybe be willing to gamble until the trade deadline.

IMO we got Murray for a steal. So while it’s not ideal, I’m okay overpaying for a center. We still potentially could move BI to get picks back as well. And CJ might actually become an asset as soon as this trade deadline as well.

Tempt Ainge w swaps and then go be an actual contender to the point where Griff and the fanbase can be laughing about the swaps in May and June.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 8:08 pm to
From Christian Clark

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Matkovic is expected to get one of the Pelicans' open standard roster spots, league sources told The Times-Picayune.


LINK
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/12/24 at 10:33 pm to
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It's unclear to me what the tax implications of the 2nd round exception are. They don't count towards the cap/tax calculations, but just for 30 days. I'm not quite sure how that is useful other than maybe adding a player that would technically violate the Apron if the 2nd round contract were officially on the books? Essentially using order of operations chicanery to violate the Apron? But you still have to get under it by the end of the year I would think.

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Second Round Pick Exception. Subject to Article II, Section 15,
each Salary Cap Year, from July 1 through July 30, if a Team signs a Player
Contract pursuant to the Second Round Pick Exception, such Contract will
not be included in Team Salary until July 31 of such Salary Cap Year (i.e., the
player will be deemed not to have any Salary until such July 31)
This post was edited on 7/12/24 at 11:09 pm
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
6214 posts
Posted on 7/12/24 at 10:40 pm to
Is there a trade possibility that gets Garland to the Pistons, Allen here, and BI to the Cavs?
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13897 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 12:17 am to
Funny that just a couple of days ago, Shamit was crapping on people on X who were saying they hope Karlo can earn a spot on the roster. He acted as if those people clearly did not know basketball as he said Karlo was not an NBA player and that it was clear.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13897 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 12:19 am to
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It's unclear to me what the tax implications of the 2nd round exception are. They don't count towards the cap/tax calculations, but just for 30 days. I'm not quite sure how that is useful other than maybe adding a player that would technically violate the Apron if the 2nd round contract were officially on the books? Essentially using order of operations chicanery to violate the Apron? But you still have to get under it by the end of the year I would think.
The only advantage I can see to that is that if someone is signed during that window, a team does not have to use a portion of their MLE to sign a 2nd rounder.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
8545 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 1:06 am to
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'll say this about Brunson. That is one way to be beloved by your team and it's fans for the rest of your life, especially if they win a title. Also, I think it's incredibly dumb to leave $113M on the table b/c you feel like being nice and think you can recoup it in 3 years as a 32 year old who's 6'1". It is beyond stupid to pay OG more than Brunson



I guess that all depends on your priorities and lifestyle. For me at 27 living my most lavish life, being guaranteed $156.5M over the next 4 years with an estimated net worth of roughly $20M today would probably set me up for life.

Turning down an additional $113M would be difficult, but if I thought just taking the $156 would result in a legit chance at multiple titles, I’d probably do it.


Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
8545 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 1:08 am to
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look how Zion looked in that press conference


He’s just imagining all the lobs
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 7/13/24 at 1:11 am to
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frick, that’s tough. Holmes is who I wanted in the draft.

Denver was likely counting on him to be able to play minutes this season also
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
8545 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 1:22 am to
Does anyone have a clue how to compare The (former) Yugoslavian aba or eurocup to American basketball?

Could those teams compete against g-league? March madness college basketball? NIT? Hopefully not high school?

If you look at Karlo’s international stats he looks like a dude who is very efficient offensively and blocks like everything on the other end. I just have no idea how that compares to the basketball I know
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
8545 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 1:25 am to
I mean his career per 36 over there is 19/9 with a steal and 3 blocks a game. There’s no way he does that, but anything resembling it, even if just for shall stretches, would be incredible

ETA: 64% from the field too…ridiculous
This post was edited on 7/13/24 at 1:27 am
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