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re: My wild offseason Pt 1. (Pelivolution)
Posted on 4/27/23 at 11:45 pm to 50_Tiger
Posted on 4/27/23 at 11:45 pm to 50_Tiger
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IN: Myles Turner, Buddy Heild OUT: JV / Larry / Kira / Dyson + 14 + 2024/5 Lakers Pick + 1 Milwaukee pick (the earliest)
Are you freaking insane. And I think we only have one Milwaukee pick left, the most valuable one.
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Posted on 4/28/23 at 12:46 am to Townedrunkard
Yeah Griff did an excellent job of trading Jrue for 3 worthless lottery tickets and then used 2 out of the 3 lottery tickets in moves like picking up D Graham and laddering out of the bullshite Steven Adams acquisition, that we also burned another pick on, in the front end.
Masterclass asset management by Griff. We really don’t have that many picks left to fool around with at this point.
Masterclass asset management by Griff. We really don’t have that many picks left to fool around with at this point.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 7:19 am to 50_Tiger
That was absolutely terrible, and if that happened I’d officially quit being a fan of the Pelicans.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 7:40 am to TeddyPadillac
quote:
That was absolutely terrible, and if that happened I’d officially quit being a fan of the Pelicans.
Then I guess you gonna be really REALLY mad next next offseason
Posted on 4/28/23 at 7:42 am to Townedrunkard
?????????????
Did we use the 2027 Pick on something I wasnt aware of?
Did we use the 2027 Pick on something I wasnt aware of?
quote:
023 1 Pelicans
2023 1 Lakers Swap Anthony Davis
2024 1 Lakers Option between 2024 or 2025 Anthony Davis
2024 1 Bucks Swap Jrue Holiday
2024 1 Pelicans
2025 1 Pelicans
2025 1 Bucks Jrue Holiday
2026 1 Bucks Swap Jrue Holiday
2026 1 Pelicans
2027 1 Bucks Jrue Holiday
2027 1 Pelicans
2028 1 Pelicans
2029 1 Pelicans
2030 1 Pelicans
2030 2 Pelicans
Posted on 4/28/23 at 7:45 am to 50_Tiger
I love all the downvotes but I would like some of you to offer your own plans up for critcism.
Construct your team under the principles of:
1) Never paying the Tax
2) Keeping the Core of CJ/BI/Zion for the next two years
3) Rim protection
4) Being able to pay Herb/Trey
5) Actually trying to win a NBA Title.
Construct your team under the principles of:
1) Never paying the Tax
2) Keeping the Core of CJ/BI/Zion for the next two years
3) Rim protection
4) Being able to pay Herb/Trey
5) Actually trying to win a NBA Title.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 7:50 am to 50_Tiger
1 + 2 + 4 don't go together, financially impossible.
At some point - CJ needs to be moved or paid less by the time Herb & TM3 get paid.
At some point - CJ needs to be moved or paid less by the time Herb & TM3 get paid.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 7:53 am to htran90
quote:
1 + 2 + 4 don't go together, financially impossible.
Actually its not. Ive already done the math
This team will be very VERY top heavy in 2025, but CJ will come off the books in 2026 and we pretty much have no clue what BI is going to do.
This post was edited on 4/28/23 at 7:55 am
Posted on 4/28/23 at 7:54 am to 50_Tiger
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I would like some of you to offer your own plans up for critcism.
When the only choices are bad choices, sometimes you're better off not choosing.
Seriously, that's what good teams do, they are patient and wait for the right deal. Unfortunately I don't think Griff has that kind of time and I also don't think you're going to get Willie to change what he does enough to make JV a net positive rather than a net negative. They have to do something at center.
We'll probably end up with some underwhelming trade like trading JV for a Plumlee, but something underwhelming could work. We don't need to upgrade JV, we need someone that can fit with Willie and brings more size/rebounding than Larry.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 7:55 am to TigerinATL
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When the only choices are bad choices, sometimes you're better off not choosing.
Seriously, that's what good teams do, they are patient and wait for the right deal. Unfortunately I don't think Griff has that kind of time and I also don't think you're going to get Willie to change what he does enough to make JV a net positive rather than a net negative. They have to do something at center.
We'll probably end up with some underwhelming trade like trading JV for a Plumlee, but something underwhelming could work. We don't need to upgrade JV, we need someone that can fit with Willie and brings more size/rebounding than Larry.
Yes ATL I agree sometimes the best option is to not play at all.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 7:57 am to 3PieceSpicy
quote:We're fine
Masterclass asset management by Griff. We really don’t have that many picks left to fool around with at this point.
Just having all of your own picks is enough to get virtually any person you want in terms of draft capital. And we have all of them plus I believe 2 additional picks and 2 or 3 more swaps. That's still a lot.
This post was edited on 4/28/23 at 7:58 am
Posted on 4/28/23 at 8:08 am to shel311
quote:
Just having all of your own picks is enough to get virtually any person you want in terms of draft capital. And we have all of them plus I believe 2 additional picks and 2 or 3 more swaps. That's still a lot.
I think it also says something that we have a bunch of players none of us want to trade. The last 2 drafts they've brought in 4 players most of us view as "untouchable". A lot of people don't even like the idea of trading Naji
I think Trey is the only actual untouchable of the 4, but if you use the same philosophy to draft a player at 14 that fits how this team is able to develop, ie no raw guys, then you might have a 5th "untouchable" player to trade.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:19 am to 50_Tiger
quote:
Construct your team under the principles of:
1) Never paying the Tax
2) Keeping the Core of CJ/BI/Zion for the next two years
3) Rim protection
4) Being able to pay Herb/Trey
5) Actually trying to win a NBA Title.
I would not keep core.
zion is fools gold.***
I run him out there in summer league and move him for a haul.
cj is not the starting point guard to do item 5, win nba.
he's not good enough at anything to suit me.
he's a nice guy.
I would have him over to the house.
sayanara. aloha.
thanks for the memories.
***
fools gold.
iron pyrites. close to gold in color.
he's going to dominate in summer league and I'm going full carnival barker.
yes sir yes sir step right up. swing the mallet. Ding! you did it!
you get big boy.
ill take a grown man with 2 years on his deal who can play playoff basketball and a couple (2) unprotected #1s. go with God young man.
This post was edited on 4/28/23 at 9:35 am
Posted on 4/28/23 at 11:05 am to 50_Tiger
quote:
Actually its not. Ive already done the math
This team will be very VERY top heavy in 2025, but CJ will come off the books in 2026 and we pretty much have no clue what BI is going to do.
Ok in keeping a core of the 3: Zion, BI, and CJ for the next 2 years, yeah its possible because they're under contract for another 2 years (well TM3 is; herb is up after this year).
Beyond that, not possible without going into the tax unless our plan is to fill 6-10 with minimum guys.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 11:46 am to htran90
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Beyond that, not possible without going into the tax unless our plan is to fill 6-10 with minimum guys.
The new TV deal and cap bump in 24-25 will give them some room, but at some point they're going to need to replace CJ with someone cheaper. Fortunately with what CJ's role should be, Trey can take his place as #3 in the offense. Then dump CJ and replace him with a bench scorer/shooter making about $15-$20 million less.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 11:59 am to TigerinATL
They need Daniels develop and take the reigns from CJ in the next 2 years. That's the optimal path.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 12:34 pm to CelticDog
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would not keep core.
I would, just not the core that most mean. I would keep Murphy, Jones, Alvarado and Daniels, build around that group.
McCollum, Zion and Ingram should bring a nice collection of picks. We'd be way under the cap. We could do an OKC level reset plus keep the players I like the most..
Posted on 4/28/23 at 1:48 pm to 50_Tiger
This is so awful it hurts to read. You really want Herb playing PG? Really?
Posted on 4/28/23 at 2:01 pm to LSUPilot07
quote:
This is so awful it hurts to read. You really want Herb playing PG? Really?
No you moron I want him to initiate the offense from time to time and play positionless basketball like the Pelicans have done all year.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 8:29 pm to 50_Tiger
quote:
quote:
This is so awful it hurts to read. You really want Herb playing PG? Really?
No you moron I want him to initiate the offense from time to time and play positionless basketball like the Pelicans have done all year.
For some reason...many folks are just hung up on thinking we need a classic "PG". With out roster, we have several players that can do just fine initiating the offense. It should be one of our main strengths to have a fairly big player at the "1" position...assuming we feel we MUST designate a certain player to be playing that "PG" position.
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