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re: Kemba out of rotation in New York, Knicks getting trade calls on him
Posted on 11/30/21 at 8:37 pm to GOP_Tiger
Posted on 11/30/21 at 8:37 pm to GOP_Tiger
The fact that vets keep coming here to die concerns me about Kemba. But all we need him to do is come off the bench and hit open 3s and pass without turning it over.
The people that have watched Kemba are wary enough that I wouldn’t give up more than Sato. No 2nd.
The people that have watched Kemba are wary enough that I wouldn’t give up more than Sato. No 2nd.
This post was edited on 11/30/21 at 8:38 pm
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 9:32 pm to TigerinATL
His knees are shot.
Hell no.
Hell no.
Posted on 11/30/21 at 9:36 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
The guy playing 35 mins a night, shooting 30% from the field and defending worse than a broken traffic cone isn’t considered a major contributor to losing in your opinion?
Honestly, 1 more league average guard and we’d have a winning record this year. That’s on Griff and that’s unfortunately on NAW as well.
Honestly, 1 more league average guard and we’d have a winning record this year. That’s on Griff and that’s unfortunately on NAW as well.
This post was edited on 12/1/21 at 12:07 am
Posted on 11/30/21 at 10:31 pm to GOP_Tiger
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Is he really worse than Kira and Sato? Because those are the minutes that we're talking about giving to Kemba.
Knicks had the worst defensive rating when Kemba was on the floor (116.3 per 100 pos)
Knicks had the best defensive rating of the nba when Kemba wasn't on the floor.
We're already defensively bad enough.
We don't need an other bad defender yet
Moreover, the knicks are offensively better when Kemba isn't on the floor (9th best offense of the nba) than when he's on the floor (27th).
Kemba isn't a good playmaker, bad defender,is injury prone and has no physical advantage over most other PG
The question isn't whether he is better than Kira and Sato but whether he can upgrade the Pels and i doubt he can honestly.
This post was edited on 11/30/21 at 10:32 pm
Posted on 11/30/21 at 10:41 pm to nicj4
This Bleacher Report article is saying the Knicks might be interested in John Wall. I don't see how you do a trade like that and feel your better if your the Knicks though. They have to send out too many pieces for salary like Fournier.
LINK
LINK
This post was edited on 11/30/21 at 10:42 pm
Posted on 12/1/21 at 9:05 am to TigerinATL
quote:The exact trade I was thinking of. Would be an upgrade off the bench, if for nothing else, a stabilizing guard.
What if all you had to do was give up Satoransky and a 2nd? I can't imagine anyone else sending better value than that.
This post was edited on 12/1/21 at 10:00 am
Posted on 12/1/21 at 11:27 am to TigerinATL
At this point Kemba is Kira and 10 years older. Pass
Posted on 12/2/21 at 11:44 am to 3PieceSpicy
Wasn't basically this entire board thinking naw would be the most improved player in the entire nba?
Posted on 12/2/21 at 12:40 pm to Chalkywhite84
Man I was a real NAW believer. Even when he struggled I thought he needs time. When he was removed from the starting line up I was encouraged that he didn’t pout. But I think I lost my believe :( that dude keeps throwing step back bricks and does not play within his strengths. At this point I believe 100 times more in Kira than in him. Man we could have just drafted Garland
This post was edited on 12/2/21 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 12/2/21 at 11:24 pm to TigerinATL
Kemba is cooked. Knee is shot.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:08 am to PolishFan
quote:
Man I was a real NAW believer. Even when he struggled I thought he needs time. When he was removed from the starting line up I was encouraged that he didn’t pout. But I think I lost my believe :( that dude keeps throwing step back bricks and does not play within his strengths. At this point I believe 100 times more in Kira than in him. Man we could have just drafted Garland
You can be a NAW believer.
The Pels fans just need to avoid putting excessive expectations on the players (NAW MIP and Trey Murphy ROY were very very unlikely)
People are saying here BI can still progress when he's already 6 years old in the league. So I don't see why NAW can't progress when he's only 2 years old in the league ...
That said, it's hard to progress in a losing team, except if you really have a star potential and you manage to realize that potential.
Players like Kawhi, Butler, Wiggins this season etc have progressed in winning and well structured teams.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 3:50 am to TigerinATL
I could see Morey making a call to NY.
Ben Simmons for Kemba, Alec Burks, Kevin Knox, and Immanuel Quickley
It fits salary wise at least
Ben Simmons for Kemba, Alec Burks, Kevin Knox, and Immanuel Quickley
It fits salary wise at least
Posted on 12/3/21 at 6:16 am to NOLAbaby
When you hear microfracture or stem cell knee injections, you stay away.
Eg stodomire, Ron Harper, penny hardaway, Chris Webber……
That’s a career altering injury. Don’t need a bum knee to go along with a player we currently have with a bum foot
Eg stodomire, Ron Harper, penny hardaway, Chris Webber……
That’s a career altering injury. Don’t need a bum knee to go along with a player we currently have with a bum foot
Posted on 12/3/21 at 7:46 am to nicj4
quote:
Knicks had the worst defensive rating when Kemba was on the floor (116.3 per 100 pos)
Knicks had the best defensive rating of the nba when Kemba wasn't on the floor.
We're already defensively bad enough.
We don't need an other bad defender yet
Moreover, the knicks are offensively better when Kemba isn't on the floor (9th best offense of the nba) than when he's on the floor (27th).
Kemba isn't a good playmaker, bad defender,is injury prone and has no physical advantage over most other PG
The question isn't whether he is better than Kira and Sato but whether he can upgrade the Pels and i doubt he can honestly.
excellent post.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 8:15 am to nicj4
quote:
Man I was a real NAW believer. Even when he struggled I thought he needs time. When he was removed from the starting line up I was encouraged that he didn’t pout. But I think I lost my believe :( that dude keeps throwing step back bricks and does not play within his strengths
i feel ya. It's just not clicking for him.
One thing i notice after every game looking at the box score is how many shot attempts he takes compared to points.
NAW 14FGA/13.9ppg
That's the definition of a chucker.
NAW is top 50 in the league in average FGA per game.
No one else has a ppg lower than FGA in the top 50, and the few that are close to it in the top 100 are a few rookies or 2nd year guys.
He's the most inefficient volume shooter in the nba right now, hands down.
Guys like Lou WIlliams, Jamal Crawford, Jordan Clarkson, Will Barton, same draft class Tyler Herro, none of them ever did that in their career.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 4:01 pm to TeddyPadillac
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He's the most inefficient volume shooter in the nba right now, hands down.
I would think part of this is that he never gets to the line either. Oof.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 4:33 pm to Mulkey Man
The biggest issue is that half his shots are from 3, however he doesn't even make 30% of them. Woof.
And its not like they're bad shots, they are wide fricking open. Herro on the other hand 40% are from 3, yet he's making 39% of them.
And its not like they're bad shots, they are wide fricking open. Herro on the other hand 40% are from 3, yet he's making 39% of them.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 4:39 pm to TeddyPadillac
quote:But Antonio Daniels said he sees how hard NAW has worked, and NAW can average 20ppg and is going to be really good!!!
One thing i notice after every game looking at the box score is how many shot attempts he takes compared to points.
NAW 14FGA/13.9ppg
That's the definition of a chucker.
NAW is top 50 in the league in average FGA per game.
No one else has a ppg lower than FGA in the top 50, and the few that are close to it in the top 100 are a few rookies or 2nd year guys.
He's the most inefficient volume shooter in the nba right now, hands down.
Guys like Lou WIlliams, Jamal Crawford, Jordan Clarkson, Will Barton, same draft class Tyler Herro, none of them ever did that in their career.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 4:40 pm to shel311
quote:
NAW can average 20ppg
What about NAW makes you think he can't average 20 ppg?
Sure, he would need 22 APG to do it, but he can do it
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