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re: Josh Hart- Sources say he would reportedly like a fresh start
Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:44 pm to Chad504boy
Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:44 pm to Chad504boy
quote:So you're admitting your hypocrisy , I'm wondering if you even realize you just did that
Hilarious and pretty hypocritical bait seeing that “Trump supporters” have essentially been declared terrorists in this country.
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Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:55 pm to Fun Bunch
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What would you pay Hart Gyno?
Don’t think he earned a pay increase, though I’m sure he will get one. I don’t believe he’s any better than say an OKC Kenrich
Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:58 pm to GynoSandberg
quote:Wait, you don't think Josh Hart is worth more than $3.5 million per year?
Don’t think he earned a pay increase
Posted on 6/12/21 at 1:16 am to shel311
I'd be cool with around $10 per year for Hart, anything higher and I'll just roll with Naji to fill that role.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 6:41 am to GynoSandberg
I think he will get MLE money.
But I’ve been saying for awhile... can WE afford to pay Hart and Lonzo? We had both on rookie deals and we sucked. How would paying them a huge amount of money make us better?
But I’ve been saying for awhile... can WE afford to pay Hart and Lonzo? We had both on rookie deals and we sucked. How would paying them a huge amount of money make us better?
Posted on 6/12/21 at 7:46 am to Fun Bunch
People who would pay Hart more than 10m per better not be the same people who are saying they don’t want to pay Lonzo 18m+. It’s clear that Hart isn’t a shooter and won’t be a starter in this league. As much as I like Hart he won’t be worth the money he will want unless he gets better at shooting 3s so we should probably let him walk.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 9:37 am to shel311
Outside of accruing years in the league and a cap that will rise slightly over the next few years, I don’t think there’s an element to his game you can point to and say this guy deserves more money.
He was afforded extra minutes on a bad team. Don’t think his current skillset is one that garners a double digit AAV. He’s should be a 20 mpg guy a la Kenrich Williams
He was afforded extra minutes on a bad team. Don’t think his current skillset is one that garners a double digit AAV. He’s should be a 20 mpg guy a la Kenrich Williams
Posted on 6/12/21 at 10:13 am to PrayingMantis
Hart should be and will be MLE level pay, around 10 million a year.
If you feel he can improve more and you want to make that commitment to him, then you give him a 4/48, but that should be the ceiling. At 4/48 he's still a positive asset, and that salary is very useful in a trade.
If you feel he can improve more and you want to make that commitment to him, then you give him a 4/48, but that should be the ceiling. At 4/48 he's still a positive asset, and that salary is very useful in a trade.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 10:59 am to GynoSandberg
quote:I don't know what to say, if you think Hart is worth a max of $3.5mil a year
I don’t think there’s an element to his game you can point to and say this guy deserves more money.
quote:That wasn't my question, and you just said he's not worth more than $3.5mil, so obviously you don't think he should garner double digits.
Don’t think his current skillset is one that garners a double digit AAV.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:10 am to Soggymoss
At that price, you'd have to start him. Do we see him as a starting SG in this offense for the next 4 years?
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:38 am to supe12sta12z
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At that price, you'd have to start him
No, you really don't. That is the price for good/great 6th men, which yes Hart is a part of.
This post was edited on 6/12/21 at 11:38 am
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:40 am to Soggymoss
quote:a sixth man who can’t score. In no way is Hart worth 12 mil a year. I’ll pack his bags for him at that price
No, you really don't. That is the price for good/great 6th men, which yes Hart is a part of.
This post was edited on 6/12/21 at 11:41 am
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:45 am to Macintosh
Utah just resigned 6th man of the year Jordan Clarkson and he's making $13 the next 3 years. And Clarkson was in the 6th man conversation before resigning. I'm not even sure the league would agree that Hart is a 6th man rather than just a backup wing. If Naji didn't develop Hart would have had a lot more leverage on the Pels, but they have absolutely no reason to overpay him.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 12:17 pm to Macintosh
Not every player has to score 20 points per game to be a good player....
Posted on 6/12/21 at 12:22 pm to Soggymoss
quote:not disagreeing with the take of him being a solid role player. But in no way is he labeled a 6th man when he’s only averaging 9 pts and doesn’t shoot particularly well
Not every player has to score 20 points per game to be a good player....
Posted on 6/12/21 at 12:27 pm to TigerinATL
hart is a case where his willingness to try hard endears to fans.
not having the 3 pt shot % makes him just another guy.
want more pay? Go and be happy.
take a cut. retire a pel in 8 years. and please work on that 3 ptr.
not having the 3 pt shot % makes him just another guy.
want more pay? Go and be happy.
take a cut. retire a pel in 8 years. and please work on that 3 ptr.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 2:42 pm to Macintosh
quote:
I’ll pack his bags for him at that price
Shut your whore mouth!
Posted on 6/12/21 at 2:59 pm to touchdownjeebus
For all the folks that need a reminder Josh Hart is great to elite at the following:
Rebounding for his position
Fastbreaks
Finishing at the rim
Hustle plays
Rebounding for his position
Fastbreaks
Finishing at the rim
Hustle plays
Posted on 6/12/21 at 3:02 pm to GynoSandberg
quote:
Outside of accruing years in the league and a cap that will rise slightly over the next few years, I don’t think there’s an element to his game you can point to and say this guy deserves more money.
So 3.5 million a year?
I would think every team in the league would take him for 8 million per. I'm not as big of a Hart fan as most, but saying he hasnt done anything to deserve over 3.5 per is one of worst TDGM takes of late.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 3:05 pm to whatiknowsofar
He doesn't space remotely well enough to garner a ton.
He doesn't do any of those things you list consistently outside of rebounding and hustling.
I'd rather let him walk and pay ball. At least the constant improvement is worth a gamble.
He doesn't do any of those things you list consistently outside of rebounding and hustling.
I'd rather let him walk and pay ball. At least the constant improvement is worth a gamble.
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