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re: Jonas would like an extension and to stay, knows there’s key changes coming
Posted on 5/31/23 at 11:01 pm to TigerinATL
Posted on 5/31/23 at 11:01 pm to TigerinATL
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Getting $10 million from the Pels is probably the best combination of money and winning potential he'll find.
I think so as well.
He's a 31 year old lumbering big that has a lot of miles on the tires. Brook Lopez was basically given up for dead around this point in his career.
I would love to have him back at the right price. Somebody needs to show these soft arse kids how to go hard night in and night out.
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 11:09 pm to TechTiger
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quote:Kira, Naji and Willy can get us someone up to around $13 million (or about $10.5 million without Naji). Not sure we would want someone with a higher salary than that given over cap situation.
McDermott?….
If we are going to move for a stretch 4, I’d rather someone like Olynyk who can play some 5 and give you a little defense. But I’d rather not move Naji unless it’s for a guaranteed upgrade as he brings a lot of value at his salary.
This post was edited on 5/31/23 at 11:17 pm
Posted on 6/1/23 at 3:19 am to Balsamic_duck
quote:we’ve done nothing for 4 years
Making rash decisions when your 2 best players played 29 and 45 games also doesn't feel like the best idea. None of the moves matter much if we get that kinda health again
Posted on 6/1/23 at 5:03 am to Macintosh
Why isn’t anyone mentioning Naz Reid?
Posted on 6/1/23 at 8:00 am to GynoSandberg
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He has the 8th best TRB% in NBA history
Parting ways with him is fine, I’d just like to hear one’s solution for rebounding. You need an elite guy rebounding next to the inept rebounding shitstains we have, unfortunately
I don't think parting ways with him is the solution. I think we need to build a better center by committee and get a center that has strengths where jonas is lacking. That's why I want to draft Lively. You need a rim protector? put lively in the game. You need someone to mash down lown and destroy a smaller unit? throw jonas in
Posted on 6/1/23 at 8:01 am to PrayingMantis
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Why isn’t anyone mentioning Naz Reid?
We don't have the money to throw at him. He's most likely getting the full MLE and we can use that or we're in the tax
Posted on 6/1/23 at 8:17 am to GynoSandberg
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Parting ways with him is fine, I’d just like to hear one’s solution for rebounding.
Yeah while I admittedly have loved Jonas for, basically, his whole career, I get that he's got major flaws. The issues are who can we get to replace him. That question includes rebounding but a lot more. There just aren't that many options. The unicorn would be Bam but they're in the Finals so this run takes that dream away for all intents and purposes. There aren't even aspirational replacements available
Posted on 6/1/23 at 8:55 am to SlowFlowPro
Willie has shown he isn't afraid to bench JV when he doesn't fit the situation, and JV by saying he wants an extension is fine with that. The Pels don't need a unicorn, they need more than 2 centers so Willie has options when JV and Larry alone aren't enough to get the job done.
This post was edited on 6/1/23 at 8:56 am
Posted on 6/1/23 at 9:05 am to SlowFlowPro
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There aren't even aspirational replacements available
Brook Lopez?
Kristaps Porzingis?
Neither one is truly realistic for us, but you didn't make that a criterion.
Posted on 6/1/23 at 9:09 am to Macintosh
quote:Question, when you say you're not sure we should bring everyone back, are you specifically stating we should trade Zion or BI?
we’ve done nothing for 4 years
Posted on 6/1/23 at 9:59 am to PrayingMantis
quote:Because he would likely cost as much as Jonas and does not play defense and is not the rebounder Jonas is. His only advantage is youth at this point.
Why isn’t anyone mentioning Naz Reid?
Posted on 6/1/23 at 10:20 am to shel311
quote:not particularly and I don’t expect us to, But I’m definitely open for a change if griff has an opportunity to trade one of them and likes the deal. Like with Portland if scoot is available at 3.
Question, when you say you're not sure we should bring everyone back, are you specifically stating we should trade Zion or BI?
I’m also just a huge fan of scoots. I think he’ll be an all star more than BI has in the same amount of years BI has been in the league
This post was edited on 6/1/23 at 10:21 am
Posted on 6/1/23 at 11:04 am to Macintosh
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I’m also just a huge fan of scoots. I think he’ll be an all star more than BI has in the same amount of years BI has been in the league
That would be a bold move and with BI and Zion's combined injury risk you could probably sell it to the fans as "We can't keep doing the same thing and expecting different results", but there's no way in hell Griff does this. BI is the foundation this "family" is built on. Dumping Ingram for a rookie would destroy all of that.
Posted on 6/1/23 at 11:07 am to GOP_Tiger
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Brook Lopez?
Kristaps Porzingis?
You think these 2 guys are aspirational for us?
Posted on 6/1/23 at 11:46 am to TigerinATL
quote:I do agree Griff wouldn’t do it but I think it’s moreso with the fact his job is on the line. He’d probably need reassurance from Gayle that he won’t get fired.
but there's no way in hell Griff does this. BI is the foundation this "family" is built on. Dumping Ingram for a rookie would destroy all of that.
But I could see him do it with the fact that this team is gonna get expensive after next year with Trey getting a big contract and Herb getting a decent one, and Bi up for an extension. Family shite only goes so far if you’re not winning and we haven’t done that since BI has been here.
This might be the best opportunity to get assets that could be just as good as BI. Maybe more
Posted on 6/1/23 at 12:24 pm to Macintosh
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Like with Portland if scoot is available at 3.
Unless they're sending dame and number 3 and paying 50% of dame contract I'm out.
No way in hell am I trading a 3 level scoring wing for an unproven rookie.
Posted on 6/1/23 at 12:29 pm to whatiknowsofar
I don't know why people are losing focus on what Griff said. He said he's going to tweak the roster. We're not moving any core players. If JV's extension is really in the works, it proves what Griff said is the plan. We'll see some changes from the bench and we're running it back with the same starting line up.
Posted on 6/1/23 at 12:30 pm to supe12sta12z
Absolutely
Posted on 6/1/23 at 12:40 pm to whatiknowsofar
There’s no way we are trading BI. And I would be terrified of putting him with Dame, Sharpe and Grant. But it is a fun thought exercise.
What if Scoot is the next Jason Kidd? You would be trading a fringe all star with two years left for a decade of excellence. Not to mention the salary relief possibilities.
Blazers would almost surely throw in Simons and Little as salary match. Not nothing, Simons averaged over 20 a game. Could Simons be a main piece in an OG type of deal? What does any of this mean for CJ? Could he be attractive to a Toronto type team?
NONE of this will happen, but it’s crazy to fit the pieces and consider the possibilities.
What if Scoot is the next Jason Kidd? You would be trading a fringe all star with two years left for a decade of excellence. Not to mention the salary relief possibilities.
Blazers would almost surely throw in Simons and Little as salary match. Not nothing, Simons averaged over 20 a game. Could Simons be a main piece in an OG type of deal? What does any of this mean for CJ? Could he be attractive to a Toronto type team?
NONE of this will happen, but it’s crazy to fit the pieces and consider the possibilities.
Posted on 6/1/23 at 12:40 pm to whatiknowsofar
quote:understandable
No way in hell am I trading a 3 level scoring wing for an unproven rookie.
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