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re: JJ Redick Podcast On The Trade To Dallas
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:25 pm to WicKed WayZ
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:25 pm to WicKed WayZ
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You’re awfully ready to believe and defend a guy you hardly know over the organization. I’m only pointing out that this his side of the story. I’m not going to jump to conclusions over one disgruntled player like you.
Fired up? Nah, just tired of some of the more lazy posts and takes.
JJ has nothing to gain by lying and has nothing but a stellar reputation amongst the league and from his former teams.
So for you to immediately cast aspersions and lick Griff’s boots says more about what you want to be true than what is likely true.
Fact is Griff made explicit promises again and again and broke them, and broke them without any communication that things had changed.
If you don’t think gaining a reputation as being a bad, disingenuous employer from one of the most beloved players in the league won’t have knockdown effects, in a league where players hold enormous power and we are already at a disadvantage due to market, I don’t know what else to tell you except to stop rationalizing and and bootlicking and wake up.
This post was edited on 3/31/21 at 12:28 pm
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Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:29 pm to Bronc
quote:You're taking one side of the story as if it's the truth.
Griff said just come give it a shot, If in a month you still feel that way we will work to send you to a situation you want
Do you think Griff purposely didn't trade him to the Northeast? Do you think Griff tried to trade him to those teams?
I would assume that Griff tried to make it work with the teams that JJ wanted to go to (because why wouldn't he?), but ultimately, they didn't want to trade anything of value for him.
This just sounds like sour grapes from JJ, because he didn't get his way. He wants to see his family more, great then retire. He's in his 15th season, if he really wants to see his family, then he can retire from the NBA and be with them all he wants.
Players under contract shouldn't have outlandish requests like trade me to a particular location. It's bad enough that they ask for trades when under contract, choosing where you land is a bit much.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:29 pm to Hester Carries
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They. did. not. want. to. trade. for. him.
It’s like some of you bathe in being aggressively stupid.
Read the fricking words my idiot man.
GRIFF PROMISED JJ HE WOULD GET HIM TO A SITUATION HE WANTED EITHER BY TRADE OR A MUTUALLY BENEFICAL BUY OUT.
what part isn’t getting through your bootlicking head my man?
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:30 pm to Bronc
At the same time, you just want us to give him up for nothing? That doesn't seem like smart business to me. Also you keep saying Griff broke promises but it didn't sound like Griff promised to buy him out and get nothing in return. Ultimately it was JJ's decision to wait it out and not request a trade then. Then he sucked and his preferred destination didn't want him. Now he's mad he has to play in Dallas for 2 months?
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:31 pm to whodat24
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the same time, you just want us to give him up for nothing? That doesn't seem like smart business to me.
Well the bad business move was not trading him for a first in the offseason. Idk if acquiring a late second and two guys who won’t be here in the future is worth the bad reputation we may have now
This post was edited on 3/31/21 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:32 pm to Epic Cajun
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I would assume that Griff tried to make it work with the teams that JJ wanted to go to (because why wouldn't he?), but ultimately, they didn't want to trade anything of value for him.
Doesn’t matter my man, if you make a promise you honor it.
The promise was that Redick would either receive a trade to where he wanted or get a buy out so he could.
This was reiterated 4 times.
Griff and Trajan broke that promise and JJ is telling his side of the story, and there is no history of JJ being some irrational or vindictive liar.
This is the part of the grieving process called denial, you all need to move past it and get to acceptance.
This post was edited on 3/31/21 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:32 pm to Macintosh
Duh, that's irrelevant at this point. How was Griff to know JJ would play like complete arse cheeks
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:32 pm to Bronc
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GRIFF PROMISED JJ HE WOULD GET HIM TO A SITUATION HE WANTED EITHER BY TRADE OR A MUTUALLY BENEFICAL BUY OUT.
What if those teams called Griffs bluff and then the two sides couldn’t agree to a “mutually beneficial buyout?”
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:33 pm to whodat24
So it’s okay for him to want to leave a team that he signed and agreed to play on. But it’s not okay for that team to do what’s in the best interest of the team. You can’t have it both ways dude. You can’t want to leave and pick where the team can send you. Especially if you’re not an all pro talent.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:33 pm to Bronc
quote:He has nothing to gain by lying, but he's obviously upset and the situation could have been interpreted differently by him and the front office. Griff could've probably traded him for a protected 1st in the offseason, so Griff was probably thinking "if he plays the same as last season and still wants out, I can trade him for a protected 1st to one of his desired locations". Well, it didn't play out that way, JJ came out and played like shite, tanking his stock. The circumstances changed, that doesn't mean that Griff is a liar.
JJ has nothing to gain by lying and has nothing but a stellar reputation amongst the league and from his former teams.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:34 pm to whodat24
quote:age? And knowing this team wasn’t doing a lot with him anyway. He’s being very Ainge like with some of these moves. His value as a “leader” is also overrated.
Duh, that's irrelevant at this point. How was Griff to know JJ would play like complete arse cheeks
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:35 pm to Epic Cajun
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You're taking one side of the story as if it's the truth.
That's exactly what he's doing. And painting the situation as if it's a black and white issue. I'd love to live in that reality but more often than not, everything is gray and there are two sides to every story.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:36 pm to CP3forMVP
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What if those teams called Griffs bluff and then the two sides couldn’t agree to a “mutually beneficial buyout?”
Then that happens, but we will never know that because Griff broke his promise to JJ and didn’t even have the decency to talk to him about why he decided to break the promise.
I hope James Johnson is worth potentially poisoning our own well with future free agents and contract negotiations with our own players.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:36 pm to Bronc
meh
we probably shouldn't have made promises we couldn't keep
JJ probably shouldn't have believed us
I don't really think it matters all that much.
we probably shouldn't have made promises we couldn't keep
JJ probably shouldn't have believed us
I don't really think it matters all that much.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:36 pm to Bronc
If Griff “promised” JJ those things then that was dumb. At the very least he should have updated JJ on the changing situation as JJ’s shitty play presumably shrank potential trade options.
It’s a misstep but not a huge deal imo
It’s a misstep but not a huge deal imo
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:37 pm to Bronc
You forget to mention where JJ didn't want to forfeit any salary to make it mutually beneficial.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:39 pm to Epic Cajun
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He has nothing to gain by lying, but he's obviously upset and the situation could have been interpreted differently by him and the front office.
Did you listen to the podcast? I have to imagine not. JJ is neither acting upset and there is no reading of the situation unless you want to claim JJ is just outright lying for shits and giggles where there is any ambiguity to the situation that transpired.
Griff made and reiterated a set of promises and broke them, and not only broke them, but failed to communicate on that change.
Best case scenario here is Griff is somehow the worst communicator in the world and JJ, after an offseason sit down and 4 additional meetings post their second sit down with a formal trade request, communicated so poorly that he gave an impression to JJ that wasn’t his actual intent.
And I’m not sure how that betters anything?
This post was edited on 3/31/21 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:40 pm to Bronc
quote:
GRIFF PROMISED JJ HE WOULD GET HIM TO A SITUATION HE WANTED EITHER BY TRADE OR A MUTUALLY BENEFICAL BUY OUT.
No he didnt you fricking tardbucket.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:42 pm to Bronc
It's quite possible that JJ is in fact lying or at least exaggerating for his podcast. On another note, the podcast is boring and basically unwatchable with that weird other dude that just sits there asking a stupid question every 30 minutes
Posted on 3/31/21 at 12:43 pm to Bronc
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JJ is neither acting upset and there is no reading of the situation unless you want to claim JJ is just outright lying for shits and giggles where there is any ambiguity to the situation that transpired.
Jesus Christ. Tell me you're not that dense? Because someone isn't acting upset means they aren't?
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