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Its hard to fathom us not moving on from Griffin

Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:32 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
124026 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:32 am
Its been 6 years. Absolutely nothing to show for it whatsoever. No major playoff runs. No major future assets. His signature move, the AD trade, is now totally done and its a bust, in retrospect. 3 Head Coaches.

We are a team in dysfunction, the bottom falling out, and a very cloudy future at best.

And yet...it appears we are not going to move on from him. There's just no indication whatsoever that that will occur. Considering how they are treating Loomis...we are stuck for awhile it seems.
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
12696 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:50 am to
Griffin got us a couple play in game wins and we took PHX to 6 games! Just need to get healthy and keep doing what we've been doing with Willie.

I'm so disgusted by this franchise. I watched the first game of the season, and as soon as Murray broke his hand knew this season was a wash. This is the least amount of Pels basketball I have watched since probably 2013.
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
7510 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:52 am to
Gayle is a clueless owner
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
12035 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:54 am to
I'm sorry but if you look at the landscape of the West today and realize we've fallen so far down the totem pole even if we were healthy this year, our "stars" are simply not good enough going forward.
Posted by Macintosh
Leveraging Salaries University
Member since Sep 2011
54202 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:55 am to
Gayle doesn’t care enough
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
24611 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:55 am to
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hard to fathom us not moving on from Griffin


All Griff has to tell mgmt is our superstar isn't coming into seasons in shape and we were wrecked by awful injury luck. Willie won more games each year he was here until this year, etc.

And they'll try to run it back next year with CJ (our character guy) we'll most likely get fricked in the draft and miss on the top 5 guys but pray the 6th dude is just as good, and Will Guillory will come out with a "this time it's different for Zion, it's his team fully now" article.

We are fricking cooked
Posted by Macintosh
Leveraging Salaries University
Member since Sep 2011
54202 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:56 am to
quote:

I'm sorry but if you look at the landscape of the West today and realize we've fallen so far down the totem pole even if we were healthy this year, our "stars" are simply not good enough going forward.
even when we’re relatively healthy without BI we’re still losing by 30 to Charlotte and Toronto. This squad is completely broken outside of Trey
This post was edited on 2/6/25 at 10:57 am
Posted by Buck Dancer
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2008
4769 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:59 am to
I hate that ownership is doing things that make me not want to invest my time and money in this team. I love going to the games when the product is exciting and fun to watch. it hasn't been that way except for a few games in awhile.

Same with the Saints, going to a Saints game is miserable with that product.
Posted by Socrates Johnson
Madisonville
Member since Apr 2012
2314 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 11:01 am to
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Griffin got us a couple play in game wins and we took PHX to 6 games!

I would've loved to have seen what we could've done with those teams with a better coach, specifically that year we plummeted.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
451907 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 11:02 am to
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I would've loved to have seen what we could've done with those teams with a better coach,

yeah.

Our injury curse has been the main culprit but coaching misfires are clearly Griffin's biggest issue.

If he just made a good hire replacing Gentry this would be a completely different situation, even with the injuries. I imagine we would look at BI COMPLETELY different
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
38490 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 11:06 am to
quote:

I'm sorry but if you look at the landscape of the West today and realize we've fallen so far down the totem pole even if we were healthy this year, our "stars" are simply not good enough going forward.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
451907 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 11:07 am to
I don't believe that, other than our randomness at the 5

Murray/Jose
BI
Trey/Herb
Zion

Is formidable and potentially even good on D....on a team not coached by Willie
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
124026 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 11:09 am to
If we are 1-2 in the lottery I'd probably move Zion, definitely move CJ, and if Murray is playing by the deadline try and move him too.

Tear it down with a new HC and new GM

But I obviously do not see it happening
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
38490 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 11:22 am to
quote:

I don't believe that, other than our randomness at the 5

Murray/Jose
BI
Trey/Herb
Zion

Is formidable and potentially even good on D....on a team not coached by Willie


But it is fantasy land to think that those guys could ever be healthy at the same time. BI and Zion have averaged playing 10 games PER SEASON together in their 5.5 years.

I'm not crazy about the return for BI and I was actually a BI fan but man I am so happy we moved on from him. Just need to move CJ now, who I'm also a fan of, but it's time for a reboot.
Posted by Balsamic_duck
Member since Jun 2017
3902 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 11:27 am to
Gayle’s too worried about protecting child rapists
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
19998 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 11:32 am to
Griffin is a PoS that lives off LeBron’s ring in Cleveland. He never should have been interviewed let alone flown here then hired.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
24611 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 11:41 am to
quote:

even if we were healthy this year, our "stars" are simply not good enough going forward.


bullshite. Zion is playing 27 fricking minutes rn in the best shape he's been in over 2 years and he's dominating.

We just needed health. And two of the most durable guys in the league (murray and herb) both went down with season ending shite.
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
57054 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 11:42 am to
Phoenix Suns series is the only bright spot of this era
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
28685 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 11:54 am to
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Zion is playing 27 fricking minutes rn in the best shape he's been in over 2 years and he's dominating.


if he was dominating, we'd be winning. He's still playing with CJ and Trey so don't tell me he has no help.
We've lost 7 in a row since Murray went down, and only 2 of those games were remotely close, and we've given up over 123 points in 5 of those 7. I can buy the we don't have much help outside of Zion/Trey/CJ offensively excuse, but what's the excuse for being the worst defensive team in the league this year? If Herb matters that much then maybe he shoudl be teh defensive player of the year next year if we finish top 10 in the league after being 6th best last year, and dead last this year without him.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
24611 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

he was dominating, we'd be winning


He literally goes to the bench after 4 minutes in the 1st. For javonte fricking green.

quote:

. I can buy the we don't have much help outside of Zion/Trey/CJ offensively excuse, but what's the excuse for being the worst defensive team in the league this year?


There are literally no plus defenders on this team outside of Zion occasionally stepping up.

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