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Is there anyone left who thinks BI is worth his next contract?
Posted on 2/26/24 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 2/26/24 at 1:08 pm
And if so, please state your case.
The only pro argument I can see is that we can't get anyone better because no one wants to come here.
What else is there that would justify BI getting a max?
The only pro argument I can see is that we can't get anyone better because no one wants to come here.
What else is there that would justify BI getting a max?
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 1:09 pm to ghost2most
Griff
Willie
Gayle
BI
And that’s really all that matters and why he will get it
Willie
Gayle
BI
And that’s really all that matters and why he will get it
Posted on 2/26/24 at 1:12 pm to Soggymoss
All are cancerous and needs to go. The Pelicans will never win a championship and they will be a large reason why.
Posted on 2/26/24 at 1:15 pm to Honest Man
I would honestly rather pay Herb 50m/yr than BI. Herb contributes far more to winning than the empty stats that BI puts up
Posted on 2/26/24 at 1:23 pm to ghost2most
I've gone from mostly out to fully out. There are just too many fit problems on both sides of the ball.
This post was edited on 2/26/24 at 5:15 pm
Posted on 2/26/24 at 1:26 pm to TigerinATL
There's going to be a hellacious "AD Trade Revisited" thread on here whenever we do part ways with Ingram.
Posted on 2/26/24 at 1:33 pm to Broski
Should the Pels try to package BI to Atlanta for Young? Would they do it? I don't know shite about NBA trades.
Posted on 2/26/24 at 1:34 pm to Broski
quote:
There's going to be a hellacious "AD Trade Revisited" thread on here whenever we do part ways with Ingram.
I mean, in hindsight, who should the Pels have asked for from LA instead of BI? Certainly not Kuzma, right?
This post was edited on 2/26/24 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 2/26/24 at 1:41 pm to SaintEB
quote:
I mean, in hindsight, who should the Pels have asked for from LA instead of BI? Certainly not Kuzma, right?
The sad thing is Kuzma and BI are a lot closer than BI and what we thought BI was going to be.
Posted on 2/26/24 at 1:41 pm to SaintEB
I think pretty highly of BI. The Pelicans just think much much higher of him.
Posted on 2/26/24 at 1:41 pm to SaintEB
The Lakers trade was the right deal considering the other rumored options on the table. The problem is with all of the injuries, this version of the Pels has wasted 4 years figuring out BI and Zion aren't a good fit. Had they been able to figure that out earlier then maybe you trade BI earlier.
It's just like with Lonzo, the problem wasn't that Griff didn't negotiate with Chicago hard enough, it's that he didn't trade Lonzo earlier at a time when he would have had more leverage and options.
It's just like with Lonzo, the problem wasn't that Griff didn't negotiate with Chicago hard enough, it's that he didn't trade Lonzo earlier at a time when he would have had more leverage and options.
This post was edited on 2/26/24 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 2/26/24 at 1:46 pm to TigerinATL
The problem was never the trade. It was always the stupid mentality to rush the rebuild and double down on it. We didn't gather enough talent to attempt to make a push. And in the end it set us back and shortened our window with the roster.
Posted on 2/26/24 at 1:47 pm to TigerinATL
quote:
I've gone from mostly out to fully out after I ran the On/Off defensive numbers last week. My eye test says that he's been passable when he tries. The On/Off DRtg numbers says that he must not try most of the time.
Herb 111.9 110.7 -1.2
CJ 112.9 110 -2.9
Zion 112.6 108.9 -3.7
JV 115 107 -8
BI 117.1 109 -8.1
If I'm reading these numbers correctly it really shows how important Herb's defense in that he plays many minutes with these other four and that drag down his On defensive numbers to something still respectful. Also, for the complaining we do about Willie at least Herb Off numbers indicate that things don't blow up defensively when needing to rest Herb.
This post was edited on 2/26/24 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 2/26/24 at 1:47 pm to Honest Man
quote:
All are cancerous and needs to go. The Pelicans will never win a championship and they will be a large reason why.
Do you not remember the George Shinn era? Gayle is leaps and bounds a better owner.
Griff has many faults, but he has also put together a better roster (Still an incredibly flawed roster) than Dell Demps and Dr. Robotnik.
Posted on 2/26/24 at 1:49 pm to 504Voodoo
Ok. We are here and You are the Pels GM.
Fix the Pels. What do you do? It has to be realistic. No trading BI for Luka and shite.
ETA: This may be its own thread but I would honestly like to see what all of you say.
Fix the Pels. What do you do? It has to be realistic. No trading BI for Luka and shite.
ETA: This may be its own thread but I would honestly like to see what all of you say.
This post was edited on 2/26/24 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 2/26/24 at 1:50 pm to Honest Man
quote:Stupidest think I ever head. If it were not for the Benson's, this city would no longer have an NBA team. As someone from New Orleans, that is kind of important to me.
All are cancerous and needs to go. The Pelicans will never win a championship and they will be a large reason why.
Posted on 2/26/24 at 2:09 pm to SaintEB
quote:
Ok. We are here and You are the Pels GM.
Fix the Pels. What do you do? It has to be realistic. No trading BI for Luka and shite.
ETA: This may be its own thread but I would honestly like to see what all of you say.
1. We have to fix the starting lineup. The numbers show they don't work together for a number of reasons.
A decision needs to be made on Jonas. I love the guy, but ultimately he does not mesh with the current construction. In the offseason, I would explore if the Cavs still have any interest in trading Jarrett Allen.
2. I don't think BI would fetch a return in a trade that would ultimately allow the team to be competitive. If a team had a guy comparable (or better) to BI, it is more than likely that the team isn't trading him unless we unload all the draft capital as well. Therefore, you have to resign him. The only name I can think of is Donovan Mitchell, but we all know the dirty little secret that he wants to be in New York.
3. I don't think this is realistic, but CJ is only going to get worse on defense each year as he gets older. There is no way to justify this for what he will be paid on this extension, but he may be best served after this season in a super 6th man role. If it is a night where he is hot, you roll with him in the closing lineup.
You opt for a shite ton of length with a new starting lineup of Zion, Allen, BI, Trey, and Herb.
We know Herb is a dominant wing-stopper on D and Allen would give you the protection to make up for Zion/BI lapses.
Posted on 2/26/24 at 2:19 pm to TigerinATL
quote:
I was very surprised to see Ingram with the worst On/Off DRtg numbers. But this is a big enough sample size to be saying something.
Have you guys not watched him play? I caught so much shite for calling out his play. Last years end of season run solidified my opinion of him.
Posted on 2/26/24 at 2:19 pm to 504Voodoo
quote:
I don't think BI would fetch a return in a trade that would ultimately allow the team to be competitive. If a team had a guy comparable (or better) to BI, it is more than likely that the team isn't trading him unless we unload all the draft capital as well. Therefore, you have to resign him. The only name I can think of is Donovan Mitchell, but we all know the dirty little secret that he wants to be in New York.
Would you explore if Atlanta would take BI for Young? However that would go to make it work (In addition to Jonas for Allen).
Young, CJ, Herb,. Z, Allen?
ETA: My fear is that Young doesn't play winning basketball and he's just another BI type stop. But what do I know?
This post was edited on 2/26/24 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 2/26/24 at 2:36 pm to ghost2most
I’d replace BI with almost any decent player in the league let along paying him 40+ million a year. My dream scenario is replacing him with Mikal Bridges or Trae young but I’ll accept a box of corn flakes and that roster spot.
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