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I miss Willie and Griff.

Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:40 pm
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
9110 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:40 pm
Never thought I’d say that statement. Can we have the NBA take over the franchise like the good old days?
Posted by Balsamic_duck
Member since Jun 2017
4685 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:42 pm to
I miss Griff for sure. He made mistakes but good god he was a million times better than Dumars.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
113284 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:47 pm to
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I miss Griff for sure. He made mistakes but good god he was a million times better than Dumars
Yep

Both can be true. Griff deserved to be fired. But we got much, much worse for it. We didn't capitalize on it.
Posted by spaghettioeauxs
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2017
3377 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:55 pm to
Was Griff not the one who traded away a treasure trove of assets for Dejounte Murray? frick out of here, he did nothing good for the Pels. He walked into a job with the 1.01 and an incoming haul with the AD trade and all he did was frick everything up.
Posted by Jnola
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2016
1672 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:56 pm to
lol exactly I don’t know why he get so much love on here
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
113284 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:57 pm to
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Was Griff not the one who traded away a treasure trove of assets for Dejounte Murray? frick out of here, he did nothing good for the Pels. He walked into a job with the 1.01 and an incoming haul with the AD trade and all he did was frick everything up.
Dumars is worse.
Posted by Jnola
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2016
1672 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:59 pm to
He is but that not saying much
Posted by Balsamic_duck
Member since Jun 2017
4685 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 9:03 pm to
quote:

Yep Both can be true. Griff deserved to be fired. But we got much, much worse for it. We didn't capitalize on it.


Exactly. I was calling for Griff’s head at the end. I didn’t think it could get worse. I was so so so wrong. This is rock bottom
Posted by spaghettioeauxs
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2017
3377 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 9:05 pm to
I get everyone here was upset about the DQ trade with no pick protections. But what else has he done that even remotely compares to Griff? Every player he acquired for us failed. And the ones he let go ended up more successful; NAW, Hart, and Dyson. The year Griff took over, the Pels arguably had the best future in the NBA. And you can even slap some of Zion’s failures to materialize on Griff’s inability to hire the right HC. Griff is a terrorist as far as I’m concerned.
Posted by Dayman
Member since Sep 2015
741 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 9:07 pm to
When you have a failed organization run by a failed owner, you can swap coaches and gms. Things won’t change.

There is a legitimate argument to be made that Gayle is the worst owner in the history of professional sports in america
This post was edited on 11/11/26 at 9:08 pm
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34826 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 9:13 pm to
Is there a legitimate argument against it?
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
14045 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 9:15 pm to
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There is a legitimate argument to be made that Gayle is the worst owner in the history of professional sports in america
He only qualification is that she said "I do" to a man the Archdiocese targeted for her.
Posted by SaintTigerPel
LaPlace
Member since Dec 2017
1794 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 9:20 pm to
I miss Tim Floyd and Julian Wright at this point. This is the worst product this sad franchise has ever put on the court. These last 3 games have been the worst 3 game stretch I’ve ever watched. The fact that we have talented players makes it even more embarrassing. We should have a significant talent advantage over the Clippers and Nets. Giving up 135 or more points in each of these games should be getting people benched and fired.
Posted by unctiger4
Member since Mar 2015
2499 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 9:32 pm to
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And you can even slap some of Zion’s failures to materialize on Griff’s inability to hire the right HC.


Simply a hilarious statement. Zion has played for four head coaches. He was a fat, lazy frick for each one and he would’ve been a fat lazy frick for any other coach in the league.
Posted by SenGooner
Member since Feb 2026
403 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 9:43 pm to
I hate Zion. He's the longest tenured Pelican. He's had 4 coaches, 2 GM's, multiple medical staffs, 100 teammates. In the NBA you are only as good as your best player. Imagine if he would've figured out how to be professional 4 years ago when we actually had a very deep and legitimate squad around him. We need to rip the band aid off and trade him while he's healthy and playing well. Then trade Herb Trey Murray and Poole as well.

Hate to say it, but might as well trade Bey too. And then pick either Fears or Queen to build around and trade the other one. I'd tend to trade Queen, since we have Karlo and Yves as options at C. You might be able to convince a team he's the next Sengun and get good value for him, probably not, but maybe.
This post was edited on 11/11/26 at 9:45 pm
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
84750 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 9:55 pm to
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But what else has he done that even remotely compares to Griff?


The Jordan Poole trade as a "win now piece" is one of the dumbest roster acquisitions this franchise has ever made.
Posted by duyp
Member since May 2011
3505 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 9:55 pm to
Willie Green was terrible. Griff trades were terrible also. I think it was more of Trajan who found the players more than Griffin.
Posted by spaghettioeauxs
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2017
3377 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 10:02 pm to
The Poole trade was pretty bad I’ll give you that one.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
84750 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 10:05 pm to
Nothing pretty about it.

It not only showed a severe lack of talent evaluation, but it also showed how ignorant he was in thinking the roster was a piece or two away from the playoffs.

Any GM that doesn't see the roster as it is currently assembled and doesn't think a complete rebuild is needed is a bad GM>
Posted by THRILLHO
Old Metairie near Cleary
Member since Apr 2006
50721 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 10:15 pm to
If you view the Poole trade as the Bay trade, then it's not bad. The problem is that we're a poverty franchise that can't use that Poole salary to combine with other assets to make another big acquisition.
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