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Posted on 7/2/22 at 9:12 am to JohnnyKilroy
Its what you were singling out and whining about, I guess goalposts are about to get moved cause you realized how silly that is to be mad about?
Posted on 7/2/22 at 9:18 am to GOP_Tiger
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Why do people think that he's a drama queen?
Mean Twitter man
Posted on 7/2/22 at 9:21 am to Bronc
I think a lot of people don’t like that he’s running away from a bad situation he had a big hand in creating. I get why KD doesn’t want to waste his remaining years in a bad situation just to save face, but that’s exactly why I want no part of KD. He has no tolerance/patience for failure and it’s hard to win a championship.
Posted on 7/2/22 at 9:28 am to TigerinATL
he played with Westbrook for 8 years. He has to have some patience and tolerance. Him and Russ took the warriors when they were actually stronger than their current state to a intense 7 game series. What could a healthy Zion and Durant do with a third scorer like cj mixed in. Chance to make a finals for a franchise like New Orleans is close to impossible no way pelicans haven’t had conversations with Sean marks
Posted on 7/2/22 at 9:28 am to Bronc
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Its what you were singling out and whining about, I guess goalposts are about to get moved cause you realized how silly that is to be mad about?
You skipped my post before huh? You’re supposed to be better than that.
I brought up his twitter behavior because gop asked why people thought he was a drama queen.
I mean durant himself would probably say he enjoys stirring up drama.
This post was edited on 7/2/22 at 9:30 am
Posted on 7/2/22 at 9:42 am to JohnnyKilroy
He’s social media and criticism sensitive and has learned to somewhat paper over it via trolling, that’s an issue of insecurity, not wanting to be a messy bitch.
KD’s biggest flaw as an individual is misplaced loyalties.
Basically the entire Brooklyn saga can be sourced back to one thing: KD’s irrational loyalty to Kyrie.
He plotted with Kyrie, who he previously didn’t have a huge relationship with, to go to a team together, and for whatever reason that choice has led to him essentially become a co-dependent in their relationship. Kyrie hates the beloved coach his first year, Durant helps get him fired. Kyrie leaves the team randomly, Durant makes up excuses for him. Kyrie refuses to vaccinate, Durant stands by his side. Kyrie toxifies the situation with Harden, Durant sides with Kyrie(now Harden is in Philly, doing the opposite of Kyrie, declining a player option to sign a team friendly deal to make sure the 6er’s can load up on talent). Kyrie demands a full max despite not deserving it, Durant throws his relationship with the FO/Ownership away to pressure the team on Kyrie’s behalf. KD doesn’t get what he wants for his friend that is using him, now he doubles down and demands a trade, preferably with Kyrie.
I don’t feel bad for KD, cause every step of the way he had off ramps he could have taken, especially with the Harden or Kyrie ultimatum, but fact is KD’s biggest flaw, and it may ultimately cost him his legacy and another ring, is his extension of undeserved loyalty to certain teammates, even at his own expense
KD’s biggest flaw as an individual is misplaced loyalties.
Basically the entire Brooklyn saga can be sourced back to one thing: KD’s irrational loyalty to Kyrie.
He plotted with Kyrie, who he previously didn’t have a huge relationship with, to go to a team together, and for whatever reason that choice has led to him essentially become a co-dependent in their relationship. Kyrie hates the beloved coach his first year, Durant helps get him fired. Kyrie leaves the team randomly, Durant makes up excuses for him. Kyrie refuses to vaccinate, Durant stands by his side. Kyrie toxifies the situation with Harden, Durant sides with Kyrie(now Harden is in Philly, doing the opposite of Kyrie, declining a player option to sign a team friendly deal to make sure the 6er’s can load up on talent). Kyrie demands a full max despite not deserving it, Durant throws his relationship with the FO/Ownership away to pressure the team on Kyrie’s behalf. KD doesn’t get what he wants for his friend that is using him, now he doubles down and demands a trade, preferably with Kyrie.
I don’t feel bad for KD, cause every step of the way he had off ramps he could have taken, especially with the Harden or Kyrie ultimatum, but fact is KD’s biggest flaw, and it may ultimately cost him his legacy and another ring, is his extension of undeserved loyalty to certain teammates, even at his own expense
This post was edited on 7/2/22 at 9:44 am
Posted on 7/2/22 at 9:42 am to ghost2most
Durant had basically one of his best statistical seasons this past year, but he’s kind of doing what Lebron started to do a few years ago. He’s focusing solely on offense and takes plays off. His defense dropped off a lot the past 2 years
Posted on 7/2/22 at 9:46 am to Bronc
You just restated everything I said when I described why durant is a douchebag 
Posted on 7/2/22 at 9:52 am to ghost2most
Durant isn’t a leader. If you swap BI for Durant, we won’t win a ship. Durant is a beta bitch and we’ll win a lot of regular season games, then lose in 2nd round of playoffs. If we’re trading for an elite player, we need that player to be an alpha
Posted on 7/2/22 at 9:52 am to JohnnyKilroy
You characterized Durant as some entitled egomaniac and drama queen when that’s not really the case here.
It all goes back to Kyrie, and for whatever reason, Durant has been the one guy in Kyrie’s professional life that has remained steadfastly loyal, well beyond to a fault. If they were dating you’d call it a toxic co-dependent relationship. Durant has all but sacrificed the back end of his career out of unearned loyalty to Kyrie. It’s wild, and I don’t know if we have ever had a narrative like this in NBA history? Where a top 20 all time player basically tanked years of his prime to cater to the emotional and financial needs of someone that is actively sabotaging his legacy and could give a frick about him
It all goes back to Kyrie, and for whatever reason, Durant has been the one guy in Kyrie’s professional life that has remained steadfastly loyal, well beyond to a fault. If they were dating you’d call it a toxic co-dependent relationship. Durant has all but sacrificed the back end of his career out of unearned loyalty to Kyrie. It’s wild, and I don’t know if we have ever had a narrative like this in NBA history? Where a top 20 all time player basically tanked years of his prime to cater to the emotional and financial needs of someone that is actively sabotaging his legacy and could give a frick about him
Posted on 7/2/22 at 9:56 am to Upperdecker
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Durant isn’t a leader. If you swap BI for Durant, we won’t win a ship. Durant is a beta bitch and we’ll win a lot of regular season games, then lose in 2nd round of playoffs. If we’re trading for an elite player, we need that player to be an alpha
Again, Durant was the alpha, the undisputed leader, of the US Olympic team that won a gold medal last year.
[Edited to add] No one is talking about trading BI, which would take away our leader and wreck team chemistry. The only possible trade would be Zion for KD.
This post was edited on 7/2/22 at 9:58 am
Posted on 7/2/22 at 10:07 am to Bronc
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You characterized Durant as some entitled egomaniac
Not to be an armchair psychiatrist, but I think it’s the exact opposite of this. He has a lack of self esteem and is unhappy, he thought winning a championship would make him happy, but he didn’t find happiness even after the GSW rings. He thought he could find it in BKN, but trusted a looney toon and that fell apart. He responds to random fans on social media not to be an a-hole, but because he feels like he’s on their level and is hurt by the criticism.
Posted on 7/2/22 at 10:27 am to GOP_Tiger
quote:He was also the alpha, undisputed leader of the Brooklyn Nets and is responsible for running that franchise into the ground.
Again, Durant was the alpha, the undisputed leader, of the US Olympic team that won a gold medal last year.
People will point to Harden and Kyrie. KD signed off on all those moves, he's going out STILL blaming the Nets FO for the Kyrie nonsense.
Moreover, the Nets brought him on with the understanding that he would run shite. He demanded they bring in a shitty Denadre Jordan. He was responsible for getting a solid coach fired for not playing Jordan more minutes, and then eventually trading an All Star in Jarrett Allen just to get Jordan more minutes. That is ALL KD in charge of and calling the shots, that's well documented.
We think for 1 second KD would come to New Orleans and fall in line and let the FO do their jobs? Zero chance. He'd come here and want to call the same shots he did in BRK. At first I was not for moving BI for KD but felt like I wouldn't be all that mad. But the more I think about the off court stuff, it's just wayyyyyyy too risky considering what we've seen KD to do Brooklyn. It's legit one of, if not the biggest disasters/failures we've ever seen and you can absolutely make a solid argument that the #1 reason for that failure is Kevin Durant, as he's the head man in charge there calling the shots.
Posted on 7/2/22 at 10:29 am to Epic Cajun
KD really does fit the profile of someone that would develop co-dependent relationships. And you nailed why.
And we saw it in OKC with Russ and how he not only let Russ get away with sabotaging their chances almost every year with his putrid shot selections, zero defense, and refusing to be a good teammate with others because he wants everything to the be Russ show, but not only did he let it go on, KD spent years defending it and enabling it until he couldn’t deny it anymore and he just sort of slunk out the back door like a scared partner fleeing an abusive relationship by immediately shacking up somewhere else and ghosting that person.
Then he finds a situation without that toxicity in GS, but then the criticism and his low self esteem and sense of self worth makes him want to leave, and what does he do? He finds the other most toxic point guard in the league and latches onto him with unyielding loyalty.
I actually find it rather interesting as well how despite all that, he wants to go to CP3, yet another point guard that will dominate his experience on that team, albeit minus the toxic qualities of Russ/Kyrie(so I guess in a weird way that shows some growth I guess?)
There’s a pattern in KD of co-dependent like loyalties to the wrong people, super hard self-criticism, and probably some underlying depression/self esteem issues.
And we saw it in OKC with Russ and how he not only let Russ get away with sabotaging their chances almost every year with his putrid shot selections, zero defense, and refusing to be a good teammate with others because he wants everything to the be Russ show, but not only did he let it go on, KD spent years defending it and enabling it until he couldn’t deny it anymore and he just sort of slunk out the back door like a scared partner fleeing an abusive relationship by immediately shacking up somewhere else and ghosting that person.
Then he finds a situation without that toxicity in GS, but then the criticism and his low self esteem and sense of self worth makes him want to leave, and what does he do? He finds the other most toxic point guard in the league and latches onto him with unyielding loyalty.
I actually find it rather interesting as well how despite all that, he wants to go to CP3, yet another point guard that will dominate his experience on that team, albeit minus the toxic qualities of Russ/Kyrie(so I guess in a weird way that shows some growth I guess?)
There’s a pattern in KD of co-dependent like loyalties to the wrong people, super hard self-criticism, and probably some underlying depression/self esteem issues.
This post was edited on 7/2/22 at 10:31 am
Posted on 7/2/22 at 10:51 am to shel311
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We think for 1 second KD would come to New Orleans and fall in line and let the FO do their jobs?
Precisely because he tried playing GM, and it blew up in his face.
Because in New Orleans, he wouldn't have to choose a head coach, because there's already a head coach that he has a great relationship with.
Because in New Orleans, he wouldn't "have to" help complete a roster, because a roster that's ready to fight for a title is already in place.
Winning a title is why Durant is talking about going to Phoenix or Miami. He obviously doesn't think that he's going to go to those places and tell the organization who the coach should be and who the players should be.
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He'd come here and want to call the same shots he did in BRK.
If Durant wants to play GM again, then why isn't he asking to do that? Why is he asking to go play with established organizations where he wouldn't be "the head man in charge there calling the shots"?
Posted on 7/2/22 at 10:55 am to GOP_Tiger
quote:But we know he doesn't think he's responsible at all. He's already blamed the FO for the Kyrie stuff, which is completely absurd.
Precisely because he tried playing GM, and it blew up in his face.
So I see no reason he'd think he fricked it up so he should take a backseat if he were sent to New Orleans.
quote:And when he wants another friend to get an overpaid deal and playing time, then what? Why assume his relationship with Willie would supercede the relationship with some meh player he's been friends with for a long time?
Because in New Orleans, he wouldn't have to choose a head coach, because there's already a head coach that he has a great relationship with.
quote:You don't know that he isn't. These dudes aren't exactly rational decision makers. Again, he's the same guy sticking up for Kyrie Irving, we can't expect him to be making terribly rational decisions imo.
If Durant wants to play GM again, then why isn't he asking to do that?
Posted on 7/2/22 at 11:17 am to Bronc
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Durant as some entitled egomaniac and drama queen
Agree to disagree but I can’t see how he’s not this.
Most of these dudes are entitled and usually the biggest stars are the most entitled. Durant believes he is entitled to a better situation despite his current situation being 100% a direct consequence of his own actions. Despite agreeing to a contract specifically to stay in this situation.
GMs get the power, but also get the risk of getting shitcanned if things go south. High reputation risk. Durant, amongst other players, want that same power but they also want to be able to bail if things go south. They aren’t shy at all about wanting the power without wanting the responsibility. That isn’t a hot take at all lol.
His ego is large and he defends it daily against any and all attacks from not only media but also random 12 year olds. Like he literally fights with 12 year olds online in his spare time.
You call him a troll, I call him a drama queen. It’s a distinction without a (significant) difference. I don’t care if it’s a coping mechanism for his fragile ego.
Posted on 7/2/22 at 11:22 am to GOP_Tiger
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Why is he asking to go play with established organizations
And phoenix is not that place.
What’s their roster look like when multiple starters are jettisoned to make this work?
Remember who their owner is and remember he is not afraid to step in and dictate roster construction. He’s already ready and willing to dump one of their key star players (and that’s coming regardless of durant).
Phoenix has enjoyed success the past two years. They have also been an absolute dumpster fire for much of the last decade+
Posted on 7/2/22 at 12:34 pm to GOP_Tiger
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