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re: Hawkins to Squadron

Posted on 12/28/23 at 4:29 pm to
Posted by bonethug0180
Avondale
Member since Jul 2018
4921 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 4:29 pm to
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Pels are -68 with hawk on court
Those numbers aren't inherent of one player, but rather the rotation they are in.

Surely he isn't all world defense, but he was largely playing with no CJ, no Trey, no Naji, Zion in as the big, and largely only Dyson or Herb as a plus defender.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20725 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 5:08 pm to
quote:

Those numbers aren't inherent of one player, but rather the rotation they are in.



Uh, yeah they are. Hawk's defense is that bad right now. Your saying otherwise doesn't make it true.

The G-League time now is going to be good for Hawk. He needs to play 35 minutes per game and improve defensively enough that he can contribute to a potential Pels late-season playoff push.
Posted by MrBarry
Member since Sep 2023
432 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 5:20 pm to
quote:

Hawk's defense is that bad right now


No it isn't.
Zion's defense is worst.

you saying it doesn't make it true.

quote:

The G-League time now is going to be good for Hawk. He needs to play 35 minutes per game and improve defensively enough that he can contribute to a potential Pels late-season playoff push.



It will do nothing but keep him in game shape.
If there's anythign he can actually work on in a G-League game it would be to work on getting his feet right when pulling up to shoot 3's off picks, and also getting his shoulders squared up, the simple mechanics of shooting with a quick release on the move like he does.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8005 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 5:20 pm to
Kid has to learn to play defense and he will be a really good player one day.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43009 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 5:59 pm to
quote:

Kid has to learn to play defense and he will be a really good player one day.


Except the NBA really doesnt value defense currently.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
23390 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 7:04 pm to
quote:

quote:Kid has to learn to play defense and he will be a really good player one day. Except the NBA really doesnt value defense currently.


Look at how the refs officiated the last 1.5 seconds of the last game. They literally gifted the offense free throw attempts. They don’t care about defense at all in the league.

All the play in the paint is straight manipulated by officiating. The great neutralizer against corrupt officiating is truly elite shooting. This is what Hawkins possesses.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
54088 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 8:14 pm to
I’m convinced gayle is gonna sell the pels
It’s like the movie major league
This post was edited on 12/28/23 at 8:18 pm
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 8:16 pm to
Rita????!!!
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
12938 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 8:17 pm to
She doesn't have any stake in any one of the teams.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
54088 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 9:38 pm to
All I’m saying is pels are the only team who dumps their first round pick in the g league

If anyone needs to go it’s Kira Lewis
Take his roster spot
Posted by BradleyBadd
Member since Mar 2018
443 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 5:14 am to
Scoot hernderson cough cough
Posted by BradleyBadd
Member since Mar 2018
443 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 5:23 am to
quote:

No it isn't.....you saying it doesn't make it true.


Yes it is. You saying it isn't doesn't make it true
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
40815 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 10:10 am to
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Pels are -68 with hawk on court. Yea kid can shoot but Is lost of defense rn. He still has plenty of learning to do/ experience needed. Y'all are bitching just to be bitching


For a short span he had reached top 5 betting odds to win rookie of the year. He was showing no signs of slowing down. We knew his minutes would drop when Trey came back but there was zero reason to cut his minutes completely, he was playing way too good. Sometimes common sense should come into play instead of a flawed +/- stat.
This post was edited on 12/29/23 at 11:08 am
Posted by BlueDog24
Member since Jun 2023
25 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 10:52 am to
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For a short span he had reached top 5 betting odds to win rookie of the year. He was showing no signs of slowing down. We knew his minutes would drop when Trey came back but there was zero reason to cut his minutes completely, he was playing way too good. Sometimes common sense should come into play instead of a flawed =/- stat.

This is spot on, and exactly what my wife and I were talking about. There was NO way he would get his minutes cut completely, right? He’s playing way too good! Willie will find minutes for him!
Nope, nope, and nope. Sad to see, especially because in my humble opinion they could desperately use him. Almost feels like management and Willie aren’t on the same page.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112626 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 10:55 am to
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Almost feels like management and Willie aren’t on the same page.
Willie and Willie aren't on the same page.


He preaches one style over and over, then does not play the dudes that fit the style he preaches about.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
73964 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 11:17 am to
quote:

For a short span he had reached top 5 betting odds to win rookie of the year.


Pretty meaningless given it’s a two horse race between Chet and Wemby. Next closest guy has like 500 to 1 odds

That said, this team has more juice overall when the offense is firing. It trickles down to effort on the boards and defensive end. Hawkins needs to be worked in even at the expense of defense
This post was edited on 12/29/23 at 11:30 am
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43009 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 11:18 am to
quote:

Scoot hernderson cough cough


Nobody has brought up Scoot lately. I wonder why
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 12:17 pm to
Because no one cares about a rookie scoring an inefficient 11.8 points per game on one of the worst teams in the league.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
40815 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

Pretty meaningless given it’s a two horse race between Chet and Wemby. Next closest guy has like 500 to 1 odds


It's a pretty good indicator that the guy was playing better than almost every other rookie except a few and should be getting minutes and not in the G League
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43009 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 12:43 pm to
You smoking mid weed

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