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Griffin picked the worst season of all time to focus on "toughness" instead of skill
Posted on 5/4/21 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 5/4/21 at 12:50 pm
Christian Clark
Griffin made a lot of noise about wanting to get tougher, more rugged, etc this offseason. It was a big source of debate on here about the efficacy of this and the lack of focus on shooting, given the lack of fans in the stands.
Well...Griffin was definitely wrong. The league officiating and the lack of fans created a perfect storm, creating the best offensive efficiency season of all time for most of the league.
Just not the Pelicans, and that coupled with SVG's early strategy to essentially allow teams to shoot 3s was an abject failure.
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There might not have been a worse season in NBA history to prioritize ruggedness/toughness over skill.
Griffin made a lot of noise about wanting to get tougher, more rugged, etc this offseason. It was a big source of debate on here about the efficacy of this and the lack of focus on shooting, given the lack of fans in the stands.
Well...Griffin was definitely wrong. The league officiating and the lack of fans created a perfect storm, creating the best offensive efficiency season of all time for most of the league.
Just not the Pelicans, and that coupled with SVG's early strategy to essentially allow teams to shoot 3s was an abject failure.
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 12:55 pm to Fun Bunch
Griffin is a fraud.
He hired a fat out of touch slob.
We suck arse with too much talent being wasted.
We bowing down daily.
He hired a fat out of touch slob.
We suck arse with too much talent being wasted.
We bowing down daily.
Posted on 5/4/21 at 1:00 pm to Chad504boy
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Griffin is a fraud.
He hired a fat out of touch slob.
We suck arse with too much talent being wasted.
We bowing down daily.
I have nothing to add to that. well said.
Posted on 5/4/21 at 1:00 pm to Fun Bunch
I think his drafts will tell a bigger story. We passed up on skilled guys like Hunter, Herro, Nesmith, and Bey who would have easily put us in better position to win games early on for guy like Hayes, NAW, and Kira who they're hoping their developments will allow them to reach or come close to their ceilings in the long run.
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 1:04 pm to supe12sta12z
Those picks could still turn to be good ones...especially Hayes. However, it’s been the other personal decisions that have not helped. Not only that, but it’s hindered the development of young players. Bringing in Adams has not brought about the short term success we thought it would, and relying on Bledsoe to have any positive impact has failed monumentally! It’s just been a complete waste of trading Jrue so far.
Posted on 5/4/21 at 1:07 pm to TechTiger
I think we can pretty much all agree that Griffin just really shite the bed this offseason and almost the entire offseason was a disaster. Even the Jrue trade which was nice on paper brought us Adams and Bledsoe who are both sort of disasters.
A good exec will reevaluate every year, realize their errors, and recalibrate.
We will see if he does.
A good exec will reevaluate every year, realize their errors, and recalibrate.
We will see if he does.
Posted on 5/4/21 at 1:13 pm to Fun Bunch
The crazy thing is looking at how this team has lost this season, if they add the right piece you turn a 10 games under .500 into a 10 games over .500 team.
I think the one thing that is clear is you can't rely on internal growth to deliver that piece because another season like this and then you might have to start worrying about Zion getting antsy early.
I think the one thing that is clear is you can't rely on internal growth to deliver that piece because another season like this and then you might have to start worrying about Zion getting antsy early.
Posted on 5/4/21 at 1:14 pm to TechTiger
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and relying on Bledsoe to have any positive impact has failed monumentally
I imagine Griffin operates in a vacuum where he tells himself, "losing Jrue but gaining Bledsoe, Adams, and all these picks is not a bad deal".. Because he's comparing Jrue to Milwaukee Bledsoe
Except Bledsoe gets traded here and goes full Eric Gordon because he hates it here. For all we know, half the players from the Lakers trade are the same way...
Posted on 5/4/21 at 1:15 pm to supe12sta12z
Saddiq Bey would have been perfect for this team. A 3&D player. Crazy to see that he broke the rookie 5+ made 3pt games record last night with 11. Everyone knew he was going to be good coming from Villanova and being coached by Jay Wright for 4 years.
Kira might turn out great, but damn it stings.
Kira might turn out great, but damn it stings.
Posted on 5/4/21 at 1:15 pm to TigerinATL
This offseason will be fascinating to see what kind of self-evaluation Griffin does and what steps he takes to adjust to the current league and roster realities.
He has commented that he didn't give this team the defensive flexibility it needed, which is sort of a start I guess.
He has commented that he didn't give this team the defensive flexibility it needed, which is sort of a start I guess.
Posted on 5/4/21 at 1:21 pm to Chad504boy
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We suck arse with too much talent being wasted.
Where is all this talent I keep hearing about that is being wasted? We have Zion and BI. Jax,NAW,and Kira have potential but are not there yet. And we have the worst guard play in the league. With NAW and Josh hurt our roster is behind the Kings and Wolves we have no shooting at all.
Posted on 5/4/21 at 1:21 pm to Fun Bunch
This team needed quality veteran guard play from the start. The players we have there now, either are not capable of playing well consistently enough or they just don’t want to.
Posted on 5/4/21 at 1:23 pm to Jar_Jar_80
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Where is all this talent I keep hearing about that is being wasted? We have Zion and BI. Jax,NAW,and Kira have potential but are not there yet. And we have the worst guard play in the league. With NAW and Josh hurt our roster is behind the Kings and Wolves we have no shooting at all.
I don't think most of the team wants to play for SVG. It's the HC's responsibility to make sure his team wants to play hard for him every night. Lonzo appears to have checked out.
Posted on 5/4/21 at 1:27 pm to Chad504boy
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I don't think most of the team wants to play for SVG. It's the HC's responsibility to make sure his team wants to play hard for him every night. Lonzo appears to have checked out.
Not only that...it seems like they are somewhat unable to come to grips with the fact that this is Zion’s team now, and they are unable to play consistently enough to be complementary. In a vacuum, an 3&D Lonzo would be a good fit, but either he doesn’t want to be that or our schemes don’t allow him to be that player.
Posted on 5/4/21 at 1:30 pm to duyp
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Saddiq Bey would have been perfect for this team. A 3&D player. Crazy to see that he broke the rookie 5+ made 3pt games record last night with 11. Everyone knew he was going to be good coming from Villanova and being coached by Jay Wright for 4 years.
Kira might turn out great, but damn it stings.
Taking Kira was the right move, but moving that 24th pick is still a huge head scratcher. I don't know if we could have moved up to 19th where Bey went, but Bey, Achiuwa, Maxey, and Zeke Nnaji all went from pick 19-22.
Not to mention Desmond Bane going #30, which was asinine. Plus Bolmaro, Hampton, and Pritchard. I would be lying if I said I saw Quickley playing like he has at well.
So many good options.
Posted on 5/4/21 at 1:39 pm to CP3forMVP
Every single thing Griff has done since we entered the bubble has been an abject failure. If we knew what we would have wound up with with SVG, I would have preferred to keep Uncle Al.
Posted on 5/4/21 at 1:41 pm to CP3forMVP
I screamed all night to draft Bey, at 13, and then at every single pick he kept sliding back to. Hell i said it like halfway through the season last year that i wanted to draft Bey. The recent history of Nova players made picking Bey a no brainer.
I know there was a few others who kept talking about going after Bane all night during the draft.
The one positive is that Naji has looked good during his short time here so far. Hopefully he can become a more solid 3 point shooter next season.
I think the thought process was they needed to move Lonzo off ball, so PG was a priority. Kira may end up being a good player, but what is his cieling? He's too small to be a guy that can switch around on defense.
If the thought process was to eventually have Zion be the point, then drafting a more defensive minded PG or 3 point shooting PG would have made more sense, OR A FRICKING SF.
I know there was a few others who kept talking about going after Bane all night during the draft.
The one positive is that Naji has looked good during his short time here so far. Hopefully he can become a more solid 3 point shooter next season.
I think the thought process was they needed to move Lonzo off ball, so PG was a priority. Kira may end up being a good player, but what is his cieling? He's too small to be a guy that can switch around on defense.
If the thought process was to eventually have Zion be the point, then drafting a more defensive minded PG or 3 point shooting PG would have made more sense, OR A FRICKING SF.
Posted on 5/4/21 at 1:42 pm to saints5021
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If we knew what we would have wound up with with SVG, I would have preferred to keep Uncle Al.
Yall know how much I disliked Al as a coach...and I am on the fence on this.
At least I liked Uncle Al as a person. I'm struggling to find any positives about SVG.
Posted on 5/4/21 at 1:49 pm to Chad504boy
Lonzo is what he is a inconsistent 3 point shooter with no in between game who can't drive and dies on screens. When his shot is not falling he is one of the worse players in the league. He brings nothing else on offense he can't create for others most of his assets come from making the extra pass or lobing to Zion, and he never gets to the line.
This team would be so much better with just decent consistent guard play and 1 knock down shooter.
This team would be so much better with just decent consistent guard play and 1 knock down shooter.
Posted on 5/4/21 at 1:50 pm to Fun Bunch
I just don’t believe most of what Griff says neither. I think he gave SVG a mismatched roster with lazy entitled young players that don’t hustle and play defense as well as vets that either don’t care (Bledsoe) or don’t fit today’s game (Adams). The biggest FU is that the picks the Pels got for AD/Holiday trades are so far down the line that SVG won’t see because he will be fired in 2 years.
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