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Fletcher better put some respect on McNamara's name!

Posted on 5/26/16 at 6:39 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 6:39 pm
Posted by Macintosh504
Leveraging Salaries University
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 6:41 pm to
Get em fletcher
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 6:44 pm to
Behind the scenes, Fletch knows his stuff is sensational. Gets him far more clicks, and people keep falling for it. He's not as crazy as you might think. It works for him, and I am all for it if it keeps him earning a paycheck. Mason and I had a good laugh about it
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38870 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 6:50 pm to
mason Ginsberg I've lost all respect for
lazy tweet-topic-of the day posts and dumb generalizations
he brings nothing to the table for me
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
76684 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 6:52 pm to
If other Pelicans writers are losing the battle of public opinion to Fletcher Mackel, those folks need to look for a new line of work.
Posted by Macintosh504
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Member since Sep 2011
52658 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 6:55 pm to
Literally every writer on the Pelicans is garbage. It's pathetic

TigernATL is 1000% better than any of these idiots
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278568 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 7:03 pm to
yea, he's a shock jock, he's pretty bad at it, but the sad part is he has started to believe a lot of what he types. Other wise he wouldnt get defensive like he has today, esp bringing up your name. He is upset people dont take him seriously
Posted by dafif5
Member since Nov 2012
629 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 7:12 pm to
Verrier and Kushner are the two best for Pels news. John Reid has also gotten a lot better IMO. He at least travels to the road games. A few BSS guys are OK, but I ignore most of them.
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 7:20 pm to
He gets paid to do it. And more than the guys that people have respect for.

I think the guy who feeds his family is winning the battle over the ones who "get respect". Good for him. I think reporter was voted either the 2nd or 3rd worst job in America. Might as well get paid as much as you can for such a terrible job
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
14941 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 7:24 pm to
Mason's consistent bickering (like this) turns me off to him. It's as if he feels he has a legitimate rivalry with other members of the media. When he retweets local media or guys Chris Sheridan essentially making fun of them, that sort of thing isn't necessary and I get tired of looking at it.
Posted by Parallax
Member since Feb 2016
1450 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 7:29 pm to
quote:

Literally every writer on the Pelicans is garbage.

Yeah, it sucks, but fortunately it doesn't really matter with the state of the internet.
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 7:31 pm to
One other thing I will say about writers - Go ahead and try to come up with thousands of words of original content every week.

Yes, TigerinATL is a great poster. I have said so many times. I respect his opinion. But its a whole different thing to write 3-5 original pieces a week that nobody else is writing. Do the research, the re-writing and editing. That is a whole different game.

Sometimes (often times) you have to write things you don't necessarily believe or care about. You have to stay ahead of the curve, because once you write about something that is already being discussed on a message board or on another blog, nobody cares.

That is the part you gotta respect. That's the hard part. On top of that, you are always held accountable when you are wrong, because people can google and it pops right up. I am sure Tiger has been wrong hundreds of times (everybody has), but its much harder to call him out on something he was wrong about 4 months ago because its so much harder to find.

ANyway, I digress...
Posted by Parallax
Member since Feb 2016
1450 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 7:46 pm to
It's definitely hard, which is why you all are generally bad. It's the internet egos that are fostered that I think bother most people.

I follow a few of the good national guys, and that's good for me. I don't need to get forced hot takes and outlandish trade proposals, etc.
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
37602 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 8:49 pm to
I know a guy that works with Fletch

Fletcher honestly thinks he's NOT trolling. He actually calls people who respond to his twitter posts trolls, as if his tweets are innocent

I hear he's a real cool guy though
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61558 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:02 pm to
quote:

Tiger has been wrong hundreds of times


Which is one of the many reasons I'm not a "professional" volunteer writer. I've said many times I come here to learn, but the last thing I want out of this is home work


quote:

That is the part you gotta respect.


Yeah but y'all lose that respect when you get into the petty bickering. I'm sure it's hard to avoid getting personal when you're so invested in it, but we want y'all to tell us about the Pels, not the other guys that report on them.

quote:

its much harder to call him out on something he was wrong about 4 months ago because its so much harder to find.


No, it's much harder to call me out because I usually approach things with an open mind and if someone has good reason to disagree with me they have a good shot at convinving me to change my mind, or at least understanding why I feel differently. This is just a different environment than writing which by its very nature separates you from your audience as an expert they are there to listen too.
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:05 pm to
Man, I praised you and you found like the two parts where I just used you as a random example of the difference between a poster and a writer

See how easy it is to be sensitive about things?

Again, I have often said you are the best poster. My entire point was that you gotta respect how hard it is for all those guys to write 200 articles a year. It's just different
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:10 pm to
As for the bickering part/ those guys are human beings. They get attacked, regardless of the medium and their instinct is to strike back. Just like you guys do in literally every single thread on here

Why should they be held to a higher standard? Especially Mason. This isn't his job. I never understood why some of you guys hold them to a higher standard. Heck, our Republican nominee does worse. Cuban did worse last night. But Mason freaking Ginsberg is supposed to bite his tongue because you guys find it unprofessional, when it isn't even his profession??
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9953 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:18 pm to
I don't have a problem with Mason. He is the least petty and most open minded of that bunch. He only really seems to get into silly arguments with Fletch who baits him pretty hard. Madison and others are much worse.
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:25 pm to
I guess my biggest problem is this idea that the BSS and TBW guys are just here to serve people with info. I can't tell you how many times I read, "McNamara is a good writer or I love the pods, but I hate his ego. Or he is too sensitive, etc."

As if we are just robots meant to give you all info but then not be human at all. Whatever, it is what it is. But Mason is a great guy. Jason is too. Jake, Ryan, etc. And they have provided this fan base with a ton of research and information over the years.

NOBODY understood the CBA years ago, now everyone is an expert. And if you don't give BSS and TBW a lot of credit for that, you are being dishonest. There was nothing like the info those two sites give five years ago.

But I digress. They are human. They should not be held to higher standards IMO. Take the bad with the good and like it
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61558 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:30 pm to
quote:

Man, I praised you and you found like the two parts where I just used you as a random example of the difference between a poster and a writer


And I acknowledged and expanded on that. Yes it is hard work, both in the amount of time involved and some of the potential pitfalls created by the difference in the writers relationship with his readers vs. my relationship with other posters.

What I posted wasn't an attack, that was feedback. We like what y'all write about the team and don't want the distraction of the other stuff. All of that hard work to earn a good reputation can quickly be undone by the petty stuff.
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