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re: Down to Celtics or Knicks....Wont Happen until June

Posted on 2/1/19 at 9:22 am to
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 9:22 am to
also interesting note: Pels have same chance of getting a top 4 pick as NYK getting the 1st pick.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 9:29 am to
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And they will need an AD commitment to sign the other guy

I think the Knicks #1 pick is most enticing & probably the best piece that anyone will be willing to move given the circumstances.


Agreed.

But you also have perfect leverage with Boston if the Knicks are involved.

They risk losing Kyrie AND not getting AD, so Ainge has amassed all of these assets and never pulled the trigger. He's got to make a move.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 9:32 am to
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But you also have perfect leverage with Boston if the Knicks are involved.




I don’t disagree but a lot of things need to happen for it to align
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 9:35 am to
I'd be shocked if the Lakers didn't make a strong pursuit of KD or Kawhi in free agency if they don't pull off a trade for AD. Magic knows that he has a short window and can't waste an entire season at Lebron's age.
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 9:38 am to
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I still feel like Tatum isn’t a given in any deal with Boston. In my mind I keep seeing a Jaylen brown & picks centered deal



yeah I do worry once we pass the deadline the Celtics pull him from the table. Do they have cap room to bring in a third guy to go along with AD ad Kyrie? I'd think they'd prefer a big 3 of AD, Kyrie, and Tatum.
Posted by Machine
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 9:40 am to
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yeah I do worry once we pass the deadline the Celtics pull him from the table. Do they have cap room to bring in a third guy to go along with AD ad Kyrie? I'd think they'd prefer a big 3 of AD, Kyrie, and Tatum.

which is why New York getting the number one or two pick is crucial to a bidding war
Posted by ShamelessPel
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 9:41 am to
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Agreed.

But you also have perfect leverage with Boston if the Knicks are involved.

They risk losing Kyrie AND not getting AD, so Ainge has amassed all of these assets and never pulled the trigger. He's got to make a move.


That seems to be the prevailing thought. Can Ainge even predict the next opportunity to come along for someone the caliber of Davis? Throw in the fact that Davis may very well = Kyrie for Boston, and people seem to think it's a no brainer to try to take this shot.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 9:41 am to
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Knicks pick can go no lower than top 5, assuming they hold on to having the worst record.... 



lets look at assumption.
Knicks 10 wins
Cavs and suns 11 wins
12 wins for bulls, team 4.

1. Knicks just got better in trade.
2. Just randomly any of those 4 wins ball #1.
I don't get all the ad to Knicks chatter.
Any of those 4 has same shot at Zion.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 9:42 am to
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which is why New York getting the number one or two pick is crucial to a bidding war


That, and they need to get a commitment from AD to play there. They also have the option of signing 2 other max players & trading the pick for a 3rd cheaper option or options
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 9:47 am to
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also interesting note: Pels have same chance of getting a top 4 pick as NYK getting the 1st pi


how?

Link?



Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 9:48 am to
Trade Niko/Moore for Brown/Picks now. Trade AD for Tatum/Smart in June. I think MM said it wouldn’t be allowed if it looked like it was part of a bigger deal that can’t legally happen now, but Niko/Moore is enough value to look like a separate stand alone trade. If you could get that by the league then that puts much of the risk and trust on Boston.
This post was edited on 2/1/19 at 9:49 am
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 9:48 am to
Posted by Crewz
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 9:56 am to
Thats not the stuff they are working on. They are working on Boston doing packages now where they send out guys to another team and that team gives Boston a player. Then, that guys is in the trade in July.

Example - Rozier and Clips pick to Orlando for Jonathan Issac. Then, in July its Smart, Tatum, Issac, 3-4 picks.
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 9:56 am to
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Trade Niko/Moore for Brown/Picks now.
I don’t see the Celtics doing this
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:03 am to
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Bridges, Reno, and 2019 unprotected 1st from Phoenix.


who?
Posted by roguepelican
Member since Jan 2019
1507 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:04 am to
Pretty sure it's ryno
Posted by j520
Member since Jan 2015
264 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:06 am to
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Tom Westerholm @Tom_NBA about 9 minutes ago
Woj says on his podcast there is a lot of “wishful thinking” that Kyrie is in play. Adds that Irving has been clear "in recent weeks, in recent days” that he remains committed to the Celtics.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:07 am to
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Example - Rozier and Clips pick to Orlando for Jonathan Issac. Then, in July its Smart, Tatum, Issac, 3-4 picks.


fricking a
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162902 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:09 am to
I wonder if the Paul/Bron/Magic play was hoping we would panic and take what we can get or just plain arrogance.

Maybe both
Posted by ErikGordan
Member since Oct 2016
969 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:13 am to
Mike
Why would a new Pels GM honor this trade agreement with Boston? Are you implying Dell will be the GM next season?
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