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Do we exercise the 3rd year option on Kira?
Posted on 10/26/22 at 9:17 am
Posted on 10/26/22 at 9:17 am
Deadline I believe is 10/31, and it would guarantee 5.7 mill for him next year.
This post was edited on 10/26/22 at 9:18 am
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Posted on 10/26/22 at 9:22 am to Fun Bunch
I wouldn't pay him $1
Posted on 10/26/22 at 9:23 am to Fun Bunch
quote:If there's a decent chance his salary tips us over into the tax then I wouldn't.
Do we exercise the 3rd year option on Kira?
If we can somehow avoid that, then sure.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 9:24 am to Fun Bunch
Kira is in his 3rd year right now.
What we would be doing is exercising his 4th year club option. If we didn't, he'd become an UFA this offseason.
It's $5.7M for next year.
If we can keep him and stay under the tax, while not losing any key players, then i don't have a problem keeping him.
If his salary will hinder us from keeping someone of importance, or prevent us from getting someone to upgrade our team, or be the sole reason we go into the tax, then i don't want him anymore.
It's not uncommon for teams to not exercise this option on guys that wont' fetch any asset for them in a trade. Kira's only value to us right now honestly is salary filler in a trade, and maybe a 2nd round pick.
What we would be doing is exercising his 4th year club option. If we didn't, he'd become an UFA this offseason.
It's $5.7M for next year.
If we can keep him and stay under the tax, while not losing any key players, then i don't have a problem keeping him.
If his salary will hinder us from keeping someone of importance, or prevent us from getting someone to upgrade our team, or be the sole reason we go into the tax, then i don't want him anymore.
It's not uncommon for teams to not exercise this option on guys that wont' fetch any asset for them in a trade. Kira's only value to us right now honestly is salary filler in a trade, and maybe a 2nd round pick.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 9:24 am to Fun Bunch
Seems kind of high for a guy who’s proved nothing coming off injury.
I’m leaning toward no
I’m leaning toward no
Posted on 10/26/22 at 9:25 am to Fun Bunch
I’d have to say no. Jose is our clear second PG. To me, Kira goes into a similar bucket as Jax and NAW as players who have the talent and showed flashes but just didn’t consistently make the plays. Guys low Jose and Trey (and looking like Dyson) make those plays consistently. They the guys we want to keep around.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 9:26 am to TeddyPadillac
quote:
What we would be doing is exercising his 4th year club option.
You are right, just a brain fart from me when doing the OP
Posted on 10/26/22 at 9:28 am to Fun Bunch
Kira Lewis and Michael Thomas both walk into a bar.
Then they are out for the year.
Then they are out for the year.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 9:29 am to ghost2most
Depends. If the Pelicans think they are truly contenders, you sign Kira as an asset. 5.7 million for a young PG is very usable in a trade. Personally, I don't see a spot for him on this team anymore, but he is still an NBA player that was showing signs of turning into a rotational player. That could be attractive to another team.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 9:31 am to saints5021
I don't really even think he fits with the team. Cut bait
Posted on 10/26/22 at 9:32 am to saints5021
quote:Problem is he's no longer an asset and has no chance to be without getting decent playing time.
you sign Kira as an asset. 5.7 million for a young PG is very usable in a trade. Personally, I don't see a spot for him on this team anymore
Posted on 10/26/22 at 9:34 am to TeddyPadillac
I would tend to agree.
$5.7m for one more year of control and the ability to make him an RFA gives him trade value this season and next.
Declining it makes him worth little except ballast in a deal where we need to add about $4m, give or take a few hundred thousand.
There are ways to make cap space back up if we need to or to make him part of a deal to upgrade a spot and open a new roster spot for a two-way guy to be converted.
$5.7m for one more year of control and the ability to make him an RFA gives him trade value this season and next.
Declining it makes him worth little except ballast in a deal where we need to add about $4m, give or take a few hundred thousand.
There are ways to make cap space back up if we need to or to make him part of a deal to upgrade a spot and open a new roster spot for a two-way guy to be converted.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 9:36 am to Fun Bunch
Alright, I'll be the first to say yes, if it doesnt hinder us from making other moves.
If he can get on the court, I'd like to see what we have in him and if we could possibly see what his ceiling might be. If he shows he can be a legit player, then great, if we don't think it's high enough to get meaningful minutes, then trade him. He was the 13th pick for a reason and I'd hate to let that go for nothing. Even with the injuries, he could have some value.
If he can get on the court, I'd like to see what we have in him and if we could possibly see what his ceiling might be. If he shows he can be a legit player, then great, if we don't think it's high enough to get meaningful minutes, then trade him. He was the 13th pick for a reason and I'd hate to let that go for nothing. Even with the injuries, he could have some value.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 9:38 am to iwyLSUiwy
quote:It certainly could, if we're trying to put off paying the tax as long as we can, which is possible and something we should do or at least keep in consideration.
Alright, I'll be the first to say yes, if it doesnt hinder us from making other moves.
Essentially saying, Kira's contract should not be the reason we have to start dipping into the tax.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 9:41 am to iwyLSUiwy
The only reason to exercise his 4th year option at this point is if you think you are going to need him to make a trade.
If you don't think you'll be doing something like that, then there's really no reason to keep him, especially after watching Dyson play, b/c he isn't going to get playing time on this team.
If you don't think you'll be doing something like that, then there's really no reason to keep him, especially after watching Dyson play, b/c he isn't going to get playing time on this team.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 9:42 am to shel311
tax is calculated at the end of the season
Pels likely to pick up the option and then if they can get below the tax by moving him they can.
reminder that without Hayes (and with Lewis) they project at 7+MM above the tax.
Pels likely to pick up the option and then if they can get below the tax by moving him they can.
reminder that without Hayes (and with Lewis) they project at 7+MM above the tax.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 9:44 am to TeddyPadillac
Yea he's more valuable with us with his contract vs losing him for nothing. I'm sure he has value just as Nesmith had value when he was traded. Potential is still his value around the league.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 9:49 am to Fun Bunch
I don't think you can let a guy walk as an UFA without really knowing what he has. It's one year before even getting into qualifying offer limbo like they're in with Jaxson right now. Everyone you want signed for next year is either under a team option, QO option, or already signed longer term, so there are not any glaring needs that would increase salaries enough to *not* keep Kira. Ultimately, keeping right of first refusal to RFA contracts is important for anyone who has any trade value.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 9:50 am to Parrish
quote:It's pretty unlikely he'll get on the court enough for us to find that out.
I don't think you can let a guy walk as an UFA without really knowing what he has.
He's a point guard only and basically our 4th PG at this time.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 10:00 am to shel311
There is no chance, in my opinion, that the Pels pick up Kira’s.
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