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re: Dell has interest in Derozan rumor from PR

Posted on 12/11/13 at 12:57 am to
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74429 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 12:57 am to
Derozan does not help the Pels. Don't think Dell is this dumb
Posted by 42
Member since Apr 2012
3703 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 1:08 am to
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Derozan does not help the Pels. Don't think Dell is this dumb



Does Stiemsma? How much does Aminu help?

DeRozan may be a decent asset, or enable another move.

Gordon for Deng still looks good for both teams, especially since Rose is down and if they want get behind Butler at forward when his toe is better.

I don't dismiss it. If I'm charitable to the info, I see some sense if there are other deals. If I'm not charitable, I see that it hurts the team on the court this season, since I think Aminu's defense, rebounding, and expiring deal are more valuable than another guard, even one who can play SF and shot jump shots better than Aminu, with another heavy deal.
This post was edited on 12/11/13 at 1:08 am
Posted by phelpsalot
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
552 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 1:34 am to
I'm down for dell to make moves.

Need some spice to this bummer start to the year.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
32272 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 1:51 am to
gordon -> chicago
stiemsma/aminu -> toronto

derozan -> us
deng -> us

PG - Jrue
SG - Derozan
SF - Deng
PF - AD
C - Smith

Bench: Rivers, Reke, Miller, Anderson, and Whitey

frick yal, we going to the ship!
Posted by MrBlue105
chillin with the BWC - anaconda
Member since Apr 2013
6602 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 2:29 am to
Yo, i can diggg that!!

Once AD is playing C next year.... pels gonna be too much!

I really don't mind the young talented aminu, but i think he's a 4 and we have 3 PFs at the moment.
Posted by CecilShortsHisPants
One Foty Fo uh uh Magnolia Screet
Member since Oct 2012
3840 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 4:00 am to
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Bench: Rivers, Reke, Miller, Anderson, and Whitey


Dawg, that's racist as shite.

Also, I would give up Gordon for Deng only. Keep Stiemsma and Aminu
This post was edited on 12/11/13 at 4:02 am
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 7:21 am to
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I'm not sure I totally get these are the best options for each team,


Ujiri is in complete teardown mode trying to rebuild after the mess Colangelo made. They want to build around Valuncias (sp).

I get why they got basically nothing back for Gay, but Derozan has more value than Gay. Aminu and filler is hardly value for Derozan.

Feel like people are losing the plot here. We've seen 20 games. Hasnt been perfect, but no one should be expecting that. Lets see if they can improve. Switching out players just to switch is a first class ticket to the mediocrity treadmill.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 8:05 am to
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Ujiri is in complete teardown mode trying to rebuild after the mess Colangelo made. They want to build around Valuncias (sp).


On top of that he and Demps are friends. If no one can give you value for Derozan and you're dumping him anyway, where better to dump him than on a friend in another conference? One thing that I don't think has been brought up in this thread yet is that Aminu has veto power on any trades involving him.
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
17689 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 8:29 am to
No fricking way smh
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 8:33 am to
That's just how the CBA breaks. Aminu would lose his Bird Rights if he got traded so he gets veto power. Belinelli had it his last year as a Hornet too.
Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
17722 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 8:51 am to
Dell was probably listening to an old message I left him about trading the pick in the offseason. Nothing to see here.
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17360 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 9:21 am to
quote:

gordon -> chicago
stiemsma/aminu -> toronto

derozan -> us
deng -> us


Shocker...a three-team trade proposal where the Pelicans somehow get the two best players and get to dump Eric Gordon on somebody...and here I thought the Asik for Ilyasova AND Antetokounmpo was the most clueless post of this thread.
Posted by IAmTheHatOnMilesHead
Team 31™
Member since Nov 2008
25971 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 9:33 am to
I don't want a 2-guard with shitty shot selection. But it doesn't shock me that Toronto is trying to move him. Their strategy seems to be clearing the books completely.
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
19521 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 9:51 am to
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I don't want a 2-guard with shitty shot selection.
He has a better FG% than Gordon or Reek and almost identical to Holiday, better offensive rating and true shooting % than all of them and a better PER than all of them but Holiday

This line was maybe accurate in the past, but he's actually much improved in basically every offensive category this season
Posted by Fleur De Lethal
NOLA
Member since Aug 2009
989 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 10:40 am to
quote:

gordon -> chicago
stiemsma/aminu -> toronto

derozan -> us
deng -> us

PG - Jrue
SG - Derozan
SF - Deng
PF - AD
C - Smith

Bench: Rivers, Reke, Miller, Anderson, and Whitey

frick yal, we going to the ship!


Does the money work? Cause if it does I would love this.
Posted by slutiger5
Parroquias de Florida
Member since May 2007
12303 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 10:44 am to
This is a toss up. Aminu has been playing well and gives you a defender for the larger 3s and smaller 4s. Derozan will give you more offensive assertiveness but what about defense and boards... seems youre losing that with him.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37037 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 10:50 am to
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Does the money work? Cause if it does I would love this.


Of course you would, but why would the Bulls take on Gordon's contract?
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59906 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 11:11 am to
quote:

gordon -> chicago
stiemsma/aminu -> toronto

derozan -> us
deng -> us


JC not another one of these
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
22731 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 11:15 am to
Still doesn't address the lack of a big either.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37037 posts
Posted on 12/11/13 at 11:29 am to
quote:

JC not another one of these


I would personally rather a straight up trade with Portland.
Portland gets Gordon, Pels get Aldridge. Who says no?
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