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Daniels named Sporting News defense player of the year.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 4:52 pm
Posted on 4/27/25 at 4:52 pm
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/atlanta-hawks/news/defensive-player-year-dyson-daniels-underrated-impact-steals/f058888f5f55c14b388cce15
First year starter that has done things not seen since MJ and Scottie Pippen.
Not bad for a player that majority on here said wouldn’t be good enough to be in the rotation on a playoff team.
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There is no other player in the league like Daniels, who routinely takes the best player on the opposing team while also playing his level of unbelievable help defense. His matchup difficulty is among the highest in the league according to BBall Index's database, and he's unique in his ability to get a ton of steals while focusing so much energy on stopping elite scorers.
First year starter that has done things not seen since MJ and Scottie Pippen.
Not bad for a player that majority on here said wouldn’t be good enough to be in the rotation on a playoff team.
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Posted on 4/27/25 at 4:53 pm to Townedrunkard
Were the Hawks a playoff team?
Posted on 4/27/25 at 5:24 pm to teke184
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Were the Hawks a playoff team?
This is such a stupid counter point. Can Dyson not be a good player, if the Hawks miss the playoffs? Because by that logic no one on our roster is good.
DD is an elite defender, a good teammate and person and is intelligent, young and hard working, so he'll continue to improve. The trade made sense for us at the time, but in hindsight, it was a disaster.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 5:53 pm to RUFshreve
Point still is that the Hawks got blown off the floor in the play in because of a lack of offense. Something like a 30 point loss.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 5:56 pm to Townedrunkard
He never was going to be that here with Willie as the coach. That’s what some of you don’t understand
Posted on 4/27/25 at 6:21 pm to NorthshoreTiger76
In hindsight we really needed to find a way to make it Ingram...
Posted on 4/27/25 at 8:00 pm to NorthshoreTiger76
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He never was going to be that here with Willie as the coach. That’s what some of you don’t understand
Willie doesn't play young Off focused guys due to their lack of Def.
Willie also doesn't play young Def focused guys due to their lack of Off.
Willie has no plan.
This post was edited on 4/27/25 at 8:00 pm
Posted on 4/27/25 at 8:08 pm to The_Duke
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Willie has no plan.
His plan is to kiss arse and keep his job due to being a good guy.
Seems to be working.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 9:04 pm to teke184
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His plan is to kiss arse and keep his job due to being a good guy.
Seems to be working.
Another thread about a dude that doesn't even play for us turning into a bash Green fest.
I don't know where you guys were early in the season when we were missing 9 out of 11 of our top players. We were going into games with a rookie center and our top scoring threats were Boston and JRE. Yet according to the board, he should have out schemed opposing teams and scratched out more wins somehow. We can't score, yet we should elevate our top assistant who is in charge of the offense. Makes a lot of sense..
Posted on 4/27/25 at 11:25 pm to RUFshreve
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The trade made sense for us at the time, but in hindsight, it was a disaster.
We got an all-NBA defender in the trade with an all-star appearance, a reasonable cost controlled contract, and he is a two-way player than can facilitate/score.
You can not judge the trade as a disaster due to the player the Pels got having a freak/devastating injury. A healthy Murray is a better player. Also Dyson was not playable with the other core pieces on the Pels roster (Herb and Zion).
Posted on 4/28/25 at 12:01 am to Colonel Flagg
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We got an all-NBA defender in the trade with an all-star appearance, a reasonable cost controlled contract, and he is a two-way player than can facilitate/score.
He wasn’t voted in as an all star, he was an injury replacement. His defense wasn’t really good with the Hawks. He made the all nba defensive 2nd team 7 years ago. That’s a lifetime ago in nba years.
DD was the runner up in DPOY voting, an award that usually only goes to big men. Only two wings have won it in the last 20 years. And he will likely be on the first team all nba defensive team.
Even without the injury to Murray, it’s doubtful any team would trade Dyson for Murray straight up now. Much less for the two extra picks Griff threw in. Another bad trade Griff made added to the list.
Posted on 4/28/25 at 6:54 am to Colonel Flagg
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We got an all-NBA defender in the trade
No we didn’t.
Posted on 4/28/25 at 9:22 am to brmark70816
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Another thread about a dude that doesn't even play for us turning into a bash Green fest.
Agreed 100%. Let's have a stickied "Dyson Daniels is God" thread where everyone can share all their favorite Dyson Daniels news.
We get it: Dyson is elite at defense. He's also an offensive liability who shot 34% from three and 59% from the stripe. I will not miss Dyson's spin move in the paint to nowhere.
Posted on 4/28/25 at 6:08 pm to AOC4PREZ2028
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He's also an offensive liability who shot 34% from three and 59% from the stripe. I will not miss Dyson's spin move in the paint to nowhere.
You conviently left out his fg% this year which was 49%.
Murray was at 39% this year.
This post was edited on 4/28/25 at 6:09 pm
Posted on 4/28/25 at 6:17 pm to Townedrunkard
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You conviently left out his fg% this year which was 49%.
Murray was at 39% this year.
You conveniently left out the fact that it was only over 31 games, majority of which he was the primary option on offense and had nothing close to Trae Young to take the heat off of him?
You think Dyson as the number one option can shoot 49%? Because i know he can't.
You also conveniently left out that he's a career 45% fg scorer as the number 2 option on all the teams he's been on.
Posted on 4/28/25 at 6:33 pm to whatiknowsofar
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You conveniently left out the fact that it was only over 31 games, majority of which he was the primary option on offense and had nothing close to Trae Young to take the heat off of him?
So he played the majority of those 31 games this year with no CJ or Trey? And he was the first option over both of them ? Took more shots than either one majority of those games?
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You think Dyson as the number one option can shoot 49%? Because i know he can't.
No im not. That’s not his job on the team. But if you gonna shite on his offense, put up all his numbers. If he hits a few more free throws a game, hes pretty much averaging what Murray is.
This post was edited on 4/28/25 at 6:50 pm
Posted on 4/28/25 at 7:58 pm to Townedrunkard
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So he played the majority of those 31 games this year with no CJ or Trey
You're gonna put those guys on traes level? They aren't close.
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Took more shots than either one majority of those games?
With our list of injuries he was the primary option a lot of the times on the court. He and CJ would have staggered minutes constantly.
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No im not. That’s not his job on the team.
But that's what you keep harping on. You're using a generic stat without context.
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But if you gonna shite on his offense, put up all his numbers. If he hits a few more free throws a game, hes pretty much averaging what Murray is.
And if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.
Posted on 4/28/25 at 8:02 pm to The_Duke
quote:Wrong. As you stated his plan is no defense AND no offense. It's a very shitty plan, but a plan nevertheless.
Willie has no plan.
Posted on 4/28/25 at 9:28 pm to NorthshoreTiger76
quote:hes still the same guy he was here just getting 11+ more minutes a game now
He never was going to be that here with Willie as the coach. That’s what some of you don’t understand
Posted on 4/28/25 at 10:27 pm to whatiknowsofar
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You're gonna put those guys on traes level? They aren't close.
CJ made the WCF as the number two option at one time and the playoffs numerous years. Has Murray even made the playoffs as a number two option?
And I like how Murray’s numbers sucked on offense b/c he had to carry the load as you say, but DD has to work bye Ben harder on the other side for Traes historically bad defense. But that shouldn’t effect his numbers.
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With our list of injuries he was the primary option a lot of the times on the court. He and CJ would have staggered minutes constantly.
So hes the number 1 option when the real number one and two options are on the bench getting breathers. Got it. That’s what I thought.
Guess he missed a bunch of shots during those short times he had to be the number one option dropping his fg% so low.
This post was edited on 4/28/25 at 10:37 pm
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