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re: Bill Simmons says a reliable source told him Zion won't be on the Pelicans come Thursday
Posted on 6/19/23 at 3:50 pm to shel311
Posted on 6/19/23 at 3:50 pm to shel311
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If every single decision a franchise makes isn't done so with the ultimate goal of winning a title, that franchise should be sold to someone who will do everything they can to win a title.
But everyone who plays is a winner! That's why we give everyone a trophy. The important thing is that all the players have fun, right?
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Posted on 6/19/23 at 3:50 pm to teke184
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Zion’s selling me on trading Zion
Posted on 6/19/23 at 3:50 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I have a thread brewing in my head about this.
I'm about ready to throw in the towel for this if Zion/BI can't come through next year and I just want a solid top 4-6 team in the West for a while.
I think good aspirations for most small market teams are the Stockton/Malone Jazz. No you can't keep a duo together that long these days, but I'm talking about being a mid tier playoff team that can make the finals if they get the right bounces one year. The Grit and Grind Grizzlies were similarly a mid tier team that nobody wanted to play in the playoffs. I have no problem with people that would take a lower ceiling to have a higher floor.
That being said, fans tend to get spoiled and after enough mid tier success most would be ready to fire everybody to take that next step up.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 3:59 pm to TigerinATL
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I think good aspirations for most small market teams are the Stockton/Malone Jazz
I think for teams like us you just have to hope for Denver this year and Bucks championship. That you can keep an MVP and there’s no super team the year you win.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 4:28 pm to higgsBoson
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there’s no super team the year you win.
Super teams are going to be a thing of the past now with the new CBA
Posted on 6/19/23 at 4:30 pm to ghost2most
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You can sell me on an Ingram trade but not Zion.
Same. IDGAF if he knocks up 20 hookers. As long as he stays healthy and in shape and plays ball for the Pels, I want him on my team. Hell, maybe having more kids is a good thing. They’ll take food out of his mouth
Posted on 6/19/23 at 4:32 pm to WicKed WayZ
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Super teams are going to be a thing of the past now with the new CBA
That’s why Suns traded for that bad Beal contract. Teams with money will still do it. They’ll just figure new ways to. It’s small market teams that now have no way to do it.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 4:32 pm to WicKed WayZ
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As long as he stays healthy and in shape and plays ball for the Pels, I want him on my team
Less than 30 games in 2 seasons..
Posted on 6/19/23 at 4:34 pm to higgsBoson
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Teams with money will still do it. They’ll just figure new ways to.
The CBA changes almost always create loopholes and unintended consequences, but that 2nd apron seems pretty hardcore in terms of team building limits.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 4:37 pm to GOP_Tiger
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But everyone who plays is a winner! That's why we give everyone a trophy. The important thing is that all the players have fun, right?
Weird response.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 4:37 pm to TigerinATL
quote:its a hard cap, full stop
that 2nd apron seems pretty hardcore in terms of team building limits.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 4:58 pm to cgrand
What are people’s thoughts on if the Pels trade package for Zion ended up being
Pick 3(Brandon Miller), Shaedon Sharpe, and Simons
Keep in mind that you could perhaps flip Simons or CJ for a better fit in a separate deal or make it a 3 teamer.
This situation could arise if Charlotte picked Scoot or traded #2, to a team like the Magic or Raptors.
And if the Pels still wanted to move off of Zion for young talent and cap benefits.
Pick 3(Brandon Miller), Shaedon Sharpe, and Simons
Keep in mind that you could perhaps flip Simons or CJ for a better fit in a separate deal or make it a 3 teamer.
This situation could arise if Charlotte picked Scoot or traded #2, to a team like the Magic or Raptors.
And if the Pels still wanted to move off of Zion for young talent and cap benefits.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 4:59 pm to cgrand
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its a hard cap, full stop
That depends on how the new CBA treats the cap implications of vet mins, mixed with the number of vets willing to take one to get a title.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 5:01 pm to 3PieceSpicy
quote:tempting but probably not. I like sharpe a lot but I’m not the highest on Simons and Miller.
Pick 3(Brandon Miller), Shaedon Sharpe, and Simons
For me it’s scoot or bust when it comes to trading any of our two stars. He’s the only guy I’d trade up for
This post was edited on 6/19/23 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 6/19/23 at 5:27 pm to 3PieceSpicy
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Pick 3(Brandon Miller), Shaedon Sharpe, and Simons
Hard pass, not even if you add every future draft pick Portland has.
I’m only trading Zion for that if we’re guaranteed Scoot, and even then I would be hesitant.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 5:33 pm to Macintosh
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For me it’s scoot or bust when it comes to trading any of our two stars. He’s the only guy I’d trade up for
Same. And I just don’t think Charlotte passes on him. Still, Sharpe+Scoot alongside BI and Trey can get me stiff
Posted on 6/19/23 at 5:36 pm to 3PieceSpicy
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Pick 3(Brandon Miller), Shaedon Sharpe, and Simons
Kind of a logjam at the 2-3 spots when you already have Herb, Murphy and Ingram.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 5:47 pm to Erdace
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Sounds like Scoot for Zion is on the table.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 6:04 pm to WicKed WayZ
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he stays healthy and in shape
Round is a shape, yeah?
Posted on 6/19/23 at 6:29 pm to ElRoos
Why would you want to regress?
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