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re: BI has scored over 20, once in the last 11 games...
Posted on 1/27/24 at 12:01 pm to whatiknowsofar
Posted on 1/27/24 at 12:01 pm to whatiknowsofar
If staying out of the play in isn't possible this year, I have little to no optimism with this group. Hell, I'm not even confident we make it out of the play in the way the opposing team's stars tend to get calls that we don't in postseason play.
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Posted on 1/27/24 at 12:10 pm to TeddyPadillac
quote:And averaging 22 a game in his last 10.
Anthony Edwards has scored single digits 3 times in the last 10 games.
They should trade his worthless arse.
BI averaging 15ppg in those 11
22 vs 15, big difference, no?
Also, BI is +24 in those 10 games under 20. Ant is +48 in the 3 you referenced, positive in all 3 games.
Posted on 1/27/24 at 12:11 pm to supe12sta12z
quote:There legit be zero reason to have optimism in a Zion/BI led team at that point.
If staying out of the play in isn't possible this year, I have little to no optimism with this group.
Posted on 1/27/24 at 12:14 pm to ghost2most
There is this weird narrative about Superstar teams. But no one can ever explain the last Spurs Championship (the one that killed the potential Heat dynasty).
That team had one semi Allstar/all pro in Parker. Duncan and Ginobli were way past their primes. Leonard wasn't a star yet. No one averaged 20ppg. But they killed everyone. How did that happen?
That team had one semi Allstar/all pro in Parker. Duncan and Ginobli were way past their primes. Leonard wasn't a star yet. No one averaged 20ppg. But they killed everyone. How did that happen?
Posted on 1/27/24 at 12:17 pm to brmark70816
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no one can ever explain the last Spurs Championship
Let me see I can explain - that team had 4 hall of famers in its 8 man rotation.
Posted on 1/27/24 at 12:21 pm to brmark70816
They golden stated Miami before golden state became a thing. That's how.
That's why it was called the beautiful game no? Now that every team is trying to build that but the last 5 years holds true, you needs a single alpha star that is far away the best player on the court or you come up short.
That's why it was called the beautiful game no? Now that every team is trying to build that but the last 5 years holds true, you needs a single alpha star that is far away the best player on the court or you come up short.
Posted on 1/27/24 at 12:24 pm to shel311
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Every good offensive player has dudes thrown at him all game. You think BI is the only dude facing this? They still get their points and shots, more than once every 11 games.
Do you watch the games of the dudes having huge scoring nights or just look at the box score? When Booker was going off vs us AD was literally screaming for us to run someone at Book we didn't it was crazy the amount of 1 on 1 and open shoots we have him. Luka yesterday the Hawks played zero defense.
I watch other team play and very rarely see other stars get the defensive attention that BI and Zion get. Just look at the Clippers game they Blitz BI from the start and did it the whole game I watched a number of Clippers game since then and have not seen them do that to anyone else. Why do you think AD brings out every game how hard BI and Zion has to work on offense while we allow other teams just to run there offense.
Posted on 1/27/24 at 12:26 pm to whatiknowsofar
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This group HAS TO win a playoff series to justify keeping the core together.
Agree completely. Have to deliver a playoff series win this year, or everyone should be on the block.
Posted on 1/27/24 at 12:46 pm to Jar_Jar_80
quote:I mean, you claimed BI was triple teamed last night, and that was obviously not true, so..
Do you watch the games of the dudes having huge scoring nights or just look at the box score?
quote:Yikes
I watch other team play and very rarely see other stars get the defensive attention that BI and Zion get
Posted on 1/27/24 at 12:53 pm to ghost2most
Wemby Tier 4 loses all credibility.
I'd bet my house note he's tier 1 before either of our guys
I'd bet my house note he's tier 1 before either of our guys
Posted on 1/27/24 at 12:58 pm to ghost2most
For sure BI has to be more aggressive offensively, particularly missing players and the team not hitting open looks, but sheesh some of these takes are ridiculous.
Pels are obviously showcasing players for the upcoming trade deadline, hence the unnecessary 10-11 man rotations. During this period his assists have been up (with shots down in a contract year ... speaks to his unselfishness) with wildly inconsistent shooting from players. What you're likely to see once again, after the roster is settled, is an uptick in his production leading up to the playoffs.
Again, some of these takes are wild, centered on the only consistent player that has led this team to any recent post-season success. Hopefully, this year, the Pels will finally make the necessary roster adjustments and have some health going into the playoffs.
Pels are obviously showcasing players for the upcoming trade deadline, hence the unnecessary 10-11 man rotations. During this period his assists have been up (with shots down in a contract year ... speaks to his unselfishness) with wildly inconsistent shooting from players. What you're likely to see once again, after the roster is settled, is an uptick in his production leading up to the playoffs.
Again, some of these takes are wild, centered on the only consistent player that has led this team to any recent post-season success. Hopefully, this year, the Pels will finally make the necessary roster adjustments and have some health going into the playoffs.
This post was edited on 1/27/24 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 1/27/24 at 1:25 pm to 50_Tiger
quote:This team is a top-five team in the past with Willie greens rotations
This team really aint that bad and prob top 6 West if you just remove Willie Greens rotation and the BI Clique (BI, Jose, and Naji).
what are we doing here in this panic thread? This is by far the hardest stretch of the season.Posted on 1/27/24 at 1:34 pm to Jar_Jar_80
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Why do you think AD brings out every game how hard BI and Zion has to work on offense while we allow other teams just to run there offense.
Many times our offense has been BI and Zion dribbling the air out of the ball then playing iso ball. We also have supporting cast guys who will pass out of wide open 3s like it is a hot potato.
It is refreshing to see someone like Hawkins who has no fear in his offensive game.
Posted on 1/27/24 at 2:00 pm to Colonel Flagg
Who else is pumped to pay him 55 million per year lol?
People are so afraid of losing Ingram, when the guy couldn’t make an all star team to save his life
I’d argue it’s better to lose a player like Ingram for nothing than paying a guy who’s MAYBE a top 40 player 55 million per year. That is a franchise killing move.
People are so afraid of losing Ingram, when the guy couldn’t make an all star team to save his life
I’d argue it’s better to lose a player like Ingram for nothing than paying a guy who’s MAYBE a top 40 player 55 million per year. That is a franchise killing move.
Posted on 1/27/24 at 2:07 pm to PP7 for heisman
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This team is a top-five team in the past
2 weeks in December dont count.
Posted on 1/27/24 at 2:14 pm to ghost2most
What why specifically and what season(s) did you ever think Zion was top 10?
Posted on 1/27/24 at 2:21 pm to Stamps74
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What why specifically and what season(s) did you ever think Zion was top 10?
I’d say Zion’s 2nd year he looked borderline top 10. But then he never improved and the league has since then gotten so much more talented.
That 20-21 season Zion looked like a top 15 guy and BI looked easily top 25. The team around them sucked. Since then the team around them has gotten much better but they haven’t improved and have been passed up by much better talents in the league
Posted on 1/27/24 at 2:57 pm to Balsamic_duck
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Who else is pumped to pay him 55 million per year lol?
I have stated I think it makes sense to trade him because it won’t make sense to extend him.
I think he is a great player, but I question the fit and the salary cap situation.
Posted on 1/27/24 at 3:06 pm to Colonel Flagg
Zion was playing at an MVP level for a stretch last year before he got hurt. He took over games.
He was dominant. He was making steals on defense and couldn't be stopped offensively.
He hasn't been even close to that this year for whatever reason.
He was dominant. He was making steals on defense and couldn't be stopped offensively.
He hasn't been even close to that this year for whatever reason.
Posted on 1/27/24 at 3:40 pm to ghost2most
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Zion was playing at an MVP level for a stretch last year before he got hurt. He took over games. He was dominant. He was making steals on defense and couldn't be stopped offensively. He hasn't been even close to that this year for whatever reason
And that was only like 15 games and then he blew a tire because his body is not built to sustain being a #1 option for an entire year.
Hell he just had his first full game this year of being point zion against the jazz and guess what? He’s hurt again.
I’d say theres about a 30% chance we’ve already seen Zion’s peak. I don’t think he’s in the league at 30. Look at Blake Griffin, very early peak, his last all star year was when he was 29. At 30 he was cooked and was bought out and started bouncing around the league as a minimum guy. That’s Zion’s future
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