re: Any possible way we can make a move for Steven Adams?

I don't see Melli at the 5 under SVG. We didn't just add a bunch of depth there for nothing. He was a square peg in a round hole last year at the 5.

So if anyone is going to eat minutes it'd be guys like Hernangomez.

I also only see us using Zion at the 5 in rare matches. So he won't be eating minutes every night, just once in a good while.

I also don't disagree with your point with Melli at the 3, but it depends on matchups and I think he'll finish with more minutes at 3 than at 5, even if that winds up being 20 minutes to 5 for the entire season. I think he'll play the VAST majority at the 4.

Dwight Howard is 6'11". Zion is 6'6" not even close to the same thing. It worked with Howard because he could still get the offensive rebound and needed to be doubled inside.

Zion can command a double inside sometimes, but he's better when he's on the move.

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Also, see above, depending on Hayes development, unless he just shows up and is complete arse, he will get 12-15 minutes a night. 10 minutes or so will get eaten up by Zion and Melli, which leaves 20-25 minutes.

We don't need Adams to play huge minutes, we will be far better in the long term just having Adams around the young guys and his attitude rubbing off on them.

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What's going to be really valuable is starting games with
Adams and watching him get opposing bigs into early foul trouble. He will put us into the bonus early in quarters, and when the opposing team's best shot blocker is on the bench in foul trouble, that's just like throwing a gas can onto Zion's game -- he's just going to explode in those situations and take over games.

I really think that the Adams + Zion combo is going to foul out a lot of opposing bigs.

To those of you who are saying that we won't be able to play Adams at the end of close games because of his poor FT shooting, I say that you are correct. But his work early in games (and in quarters), will put us ahead in many of those situations when we would otherwise be behind.

Nico will play mostly with Zion and Adams. He is obviously the 4 with Adams, but probably the 5 next to Zion. This is all using old language to describe 2020 basketball, though. There is so much switching and stretching now that there is hardy a difference at PF and C.

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Nico will play mostly with Zion and Adams. He is obviously the 4 with Adams, but probably the 5 next to Zion. This is all using old language to describe 2020 basketball, though. There is so much switching and stretching now that there is hardy a difference at PF and C.

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I disagree. There's no way that Melli, Zion, and Adams spend much time on the floor together, unless we see a very different Zion this year. Even when he was healthy last season, there was no way he was guarding opposing 3s.

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What is KAT better at?

He shoots the 3, THAT'S IT.

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I seriously get the impression some people do not watch games outside the Pels.

Which is I suspect a lot of this boards problem. Seeing as it took me several days to bring up the fact that many seemed oblivious to that Adams has been unable to finish playoff series and you all simply struggled to grasp for rationalizations.

Adams is a superior defender, that is basically it. Kat is a night and day better offensive player, a better rebounder, and a better facilitator. And before I hear another round of Adams boxing out prowess please quote me Kat vs Adams team rebounding percentage when that player is boxing out.

You are going to need to do a lot better than that to convince me you have a solid case for Adams being a top 5 center

We are only talking about the quantity of picks, not the value.

It’s funny how for a week Daddy Griffin getting George Hill was a down-low brilliant move because teams coveted him and he could be flipped for a late first at least.

Then how on draft night Daddy Griffin trades one late first for another and everyone is praising the move because he moved a draft pick in a weak draft class for what people argued he must think is a better one.

Than the Adams trade happens and people like myself are asking why this makes sense when no one was taking Adams for over a year and he has had a rocky post season plus his contract is an alabatross and he doesn’t project to be in a full time role when we are legitimately competing.

Then suddenly Hill and late firsts ain’t shite because Daddy Griffin has spoken and it’s troll season for anyone that thinks they matter.

Then people like me counter that in fact if you look at the players in draft classes from 3-4 years ago that almost 50% of late firsts and early seconds became meaningful players. Which is about the development curve our team is on. Which is also the curve Adams likely either takes a lesser role or is probably not in our core anymore. Or how those assets could be bundled with others to bring in talent more aligned with our long term needs. Again begging the question why this move, for this price, for this moment? To which we then get the intangible argument, which is basically a nice way of saying I don’t have a concrete argument I just think this player with no coaching experience is somehow going to impress upon our players some magical wisdom and culture that no other player could do.

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I’m not reading that shite

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Why?

A quick look at your profile and you spent sun up to sun down buffing up your quarter million post count, trolling and acting like a general a-hole to people, so it’s clear your arse has nothing better to do anyways. Keeping in mind I never once quoted or spoke to you. It was your arse that injected yourself into this back and forth.

You can troll and act like an a-hole for 12 hours on this board but not participate?

Sounds like a real healthy life you got going on there friend

I find it hilarious that the first pages everyone was like hell no on Adams and the OP has nothing but down votes for suggesting acquiring him. Some even suggesting that the Thunder should be giving us picks for taking on that contract.

Now we give 4 assets to take on that contract and it’s a great deal. I just see a bunch of Griffin arse kissing hypocrites posting on here besides Bronc.

For reference, here’s a quote from a BR article that made the same points I stated right after the trade...
And like I argued, Drummond was an all nba center making the same dough as Adams and could only fetch one second, but Adams was a steal??

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How Adams' $27.5 million expiring salary was worth a future first-rounder and two seconds is a mystery. Where was the other offer of a first coming from? Did old-school centers paid three times what their production dictates suddenly become hot commodities? Anyone want to guess how long it'll take Thunder general manager Sam Presti to flip George Hill for another protected first-rounder

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