re: Any possible way we can make a move for Steven Adams?

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You're all 3. BI has been in the league 4 years, and has never made the playoffs. Zion is going into his second year. They are both still growing.

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In 2 years, BI will have been in the league for 6 years and will be 2 years into a max deal, and Zion will be nearing the end of his rookie deal and (health willing) about to get paid the max. It’s not crazy to think about winning a first round series at that point...

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It’s fun to make stuff up

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It's also fun to watch you crawfish away from that original take that posters made fun of you for, and then it actually came to fruition how wrong you were.

I'd try to walk that one back too if I were you.

I’m not crawfishing from anything. In fact I want to send $100 to your favorite charity during this holiday time if you can pull up the post where I said those things.

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Not better than Adams

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Bam

Not a pure center.

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Are you just re-classifying the NBA centers to meet your argument? Are there more than 5 centers in the NBA that qualify for your comparison? You vastly overrate Adams. He's a good player, but not the super star you are making him out to be.

No, I very clearly stated what a pure center is.

Not guys that play the center sometimes, guys that are pure centers and play nowhere else on the court.

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You are manipulating the facts to match what you want it to be. OKC was added to an already agreed-upon trade

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It’s clear the Pels were targeting Adams from the beginning, so you have no idea whether or not the Adams part was part of the initial trade or not.

I’m mot manipulating anything the fact is, we sent out Jrue, 2 second round picks, and bench fodder and got back Adams, Bledsoe, 2 unprotected firsts, and 2 pick swaps. If you think that is an “overpay for Adams” you’re a dimwit.

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so you have no idea whether or not the Adams part was part of the initial trade or not. I’m mot manipulating anything the fact is, we sent out Jrue, 2 second round picks, and bench fodder and got back Adams, Bledsoe, 2 unprotected firsts, and 2 pick swaps. If you think that is an “overpay for Adams” you’re a dimwit.

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Adams was not part of the original trade. He had nothing to do what we got back from the Bucks. That’s just a stupid take. If we don’t include Adams in the trade, do you think what we got back from the Bucks changes?

You and others are trying to look at the entire trade to feel better that we overpayed for Adams. Almost every nba writer thinks we bent over the Bucks for what we got for Jrue. Those same experts think we paid too much for Adams. Guess a lot of NBA ‘experts’ are also dimwits. Apparently it was a sellers market this year. You win some, you lose some.

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We didn't give up any pieces we were likely to use outside of the protected first. How is getting a guy who is going to start not worth a bunch of g league level players, an aging pg (which we are loaded at the guard position so he would be taking valuable reps away), and 2 2nds who would likely wind up as more g league level players, and 1 lottery protected 1st? We gave up a bunch of trash (from our perspective) and one good (not great) pick for a starting center who is near all star level.

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Wasnt Jokic who had his team in the Western finals a 2nd round pick? Wasn’t jimmy butler taken at the very end of the first and just willed his team to the finals? Love how people just discount those throw away pics.

No telling if we were going to use those picks or not since they were a few years down the road. No telling who will be on the market at that time and maybe that extra Denver first will put us over the top to get a Booker or Simmons or whoever.

There’s no arguing it was an overpay. Go read the first few pages of this thread. Some ppl thought we should get picks for taking Adams but now it was a great deal?

And as far as him being ‘close’ to an all star, how about Drummond who was not only an all star center but an all nba center, same age, same price tag being had for only ONE 2nd a few months earlier. And he pretty much gets played off the court same as Adams in the 4th. The market was set on old school centers with overpriced contracts. So if Adams was a good deal, the Drummond trade must’ve been the NBA heist of the century.....

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I've responded multiple times to the logic here. Try to work on your reading comprehension.

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Returning back to this.

Came back after a day plus off and you have still yet to qualify this Adams is a top 5 center nonsense.

Planning on doing so anytime soon? I'd like you to stop acting like a coward and put your list on the table and defend it. With numbers, with objective comparative analysis. Make the case, an actual case. Not this half trollish nonsense you continue on where you bend logic to exclude certain centers and refuse to say anything beyond vague notions and insults.

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How many fricking times would you like me to respond to it? I've stated multiple times what the criteria is, and there's 3 maybe 4 centers that are better, Embiid, Jokic, Gobert.

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I want you to actually list out your top ten centers and where Adams fits and why. Using numbers and objective analysis to make your case for Adams position. I gave you around ten centers I think most could reasonably argue would rank above Adams. All you have done is laugh, make silly assertions like all Kat can do is shoot(when he is statistically better at everything on the court sans rim protection and interior defense than Adams) and reassert that top 5 statement in an almost belligerent manner to people. Which is a bold statement I have never heard anyone wanting to be taken seriously make, so I am curious what gives you this confidence and why?

Or is your entirely arbitrary criteria(that you in fact have not qualified) going to make a top ten list impossible? Since I imagine if the criteria for a best-of player is they play that position exclusively, if we did the same for small forwards there would basically be no one on that list since almost every one of them plays up or down the lineup chain at some point.