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re: 2023 NBA Free Agency, Pels cap state
Posted on 7/7/23 at 10:57 am to teke184
Posted on 7/7/23 at 10:57 am to teke184
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Those picks could still be worth something if the Bucks implode due to the new CBA.
you mean pick.
all we really have left is the 2027 first unprotected and the 26 pick swap. the 24 pick swap we have will be worthless, and the 25 pick has been traded away.
i agree though the 27 1st is a valuable pick to have, b/c if Giannis leaves, i don't think they are recovering from it. They have nothing after him, and no young talent.
It would take an absolute awesome offer to trade that pick right now, same with the 25 Lakers 1st.
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Posted on 7/7/23 at 11:02 am to TeddyPadillac
Guys on Supermax deals as of this past November-
Steph Curry
Dame
Giannis
Gobert
Embiid
Luka
Westbrook (since bought out)
John Wall (since bought out)
Harden is listed but he actually isn’t on a full one IIRC because he took a pay cut to get the Sixers some help.
Most of these guys are MVP winners or MVP level players like Luka.
The names that really stick out in that list are Gobert, Westbrook, and Wall.
Gobert was questionable simply because a defense first center isn’t worth that amount.
Westbrook was worth it at one point but his game aged badly, hence getting flipped to Houston, Washington, the Lake Show, etc.
Wall was just a case of the DC front office being stupid. See “NTC, Bradley Beal”.
Dame’s deal was a little rich given his production but small markets tend to overpay to keep stars.
The problem is he wants his cake and to eat it too.
Steph Curry
Dame
Giannis
Gobert
Embiid
Luka
Westbrook (since bought out)
John Wall (since bought out)
Harden is listed but he actually isn’t on a full one IIRC because he took a pay cut to get the Sixers some help.
Most of these guys are MVP winners or MVP level players like Luka.
The names that really stick out in that list are Gobert, Westbrook, and Wall.
Gobert was questionable simply because a defense first center isn’t worth that amount.
Westbrook was worth it at one point but his game aged badly, hence getting flipped to Houston, Washington, the Lake Show, etc.
Wall was just a case of the DC front office being stupid. See “NTC, Bradley Beal”.
Dame’s deal was a little rich given his production but small markets tend to overpay to keep stars.
The problem is he wants his cake and to eat it too.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 11:09 am to teke184
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IIRC, Jrue came to us quietly about going and didn’t raise the pressure in public, which in turn let us keep leverage while moving him.
Yup.
Same thing KD did also and he got to the team he wanted. Granted in the KD situation Phoenix did have everything needed to pull off a trade like that, but he still got where he wanted to go by keeping everything quiet and behind the scenes.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 11:10 am to teke184
the whole point of the supermax was so that the small market team could keep the superstar by being able to offer him more than anyone else could.
If you let them force their way out to the team of their liking a year after signing it, then what was the point? There should simply be a longer time period where they cannot be traded. Supermax should be not until after 4 years, the 4 year regular max should be not until after 3 years. maybe make a stipulation where the only way you can trade them before those dates is if its for another max player, like the Wall/Westbrook trade.
If you let them force their way out to the team of their liking a year after signing it, then what was the point? There should simply be a longer time period where they cannot be traded. Supermax should be not until after 4 years, the 4 year regular max should be not until after 3 years. maybe make a stipulation where the only way you can trade them before those dates is if its for another max player, like the Wall/Westbrook trade.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 11:12 am to PrayingMantis
quote:You’re an idiot.
2K logic doesnt translate to the NBA.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 11:12 am to TeddyPadillac
quote:
he whole point of the supermax was so that the small market team could keep the superstar by being able to offer him more than anyone else could. If you let them force their way out to the team of their liking a year after signing it, then what was the point? There should simply be a longer time period where they cannot be traded. Supermax should be not until after 4 years, the 4 year regular max should be not until after 3 years. maybe make a stipulation where the only way you can trade them before those dates is if its for another max player, like the Wall/Westbrook trade.
Could also do a reverse trade kicker.
If the player requests a trade then he gives up 15% of the contract, and that amount goes to the team that’s trading him.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 11:14 am to Soggymoss
Blazers want two quality players and 4 1sts.
Herb
JV
4 1sts
Get Blazers to eat 25 mil lol
Let's win a fricking title
Herb
JV
4 1sts
Get Blazers to eat 25 mil lol
Let's win a fricking title
This post was edited on 7/7/23 at 11:18 am
Posted on 7/7/23 at 11:17 am to teke184
Pretty sure Jokic, Booker, and Towns are on supermax contracts now, too. Beal is also on a 35% max contract.
They should really make it to where you can only be traded in the last year of any "max" contract.
They should really make it to where you can only be traded in the last year of any "max" contract.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 11:17 am to whatiknowsofar
quote:
Herb
Cannot be traded
Posted on 7/7/23 at 11:21 am to whatiknowsofar
CJ
JV
4 firsts
a swap
profit
JV
4 firsts
a swap
profit
Posted on 7/7/23 at 11:31 am to Fun Bunch
quote:
Zach LaVine’s name has landed in preliminary trade conversations with both the Philadelphia 76ers and Portland Trail Blazers, per @KCJHoop
Posted on 7/7/23 at 11:36 am to Soggymoss
quote:
Zach LaVine’s name has landed in preliminary trade conversations with both the Philadelphia 76ers and Portland Trail Blazers, per @KCJHoop
i figured this. I'd bet DeRozan is on the blocks as well. With Lonzo's injury, and the lack of success that team has had, i'm sure they are looking to just go a completely different direction.
I could see Sixers sending Chicago a couple of firsts and Harris for Lavine or Derozan.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 11:37 am to Soggymoss
quote:
Could also do a reverse trade kicker.
If the player requests a trade then he gives up 15% of the contract, and that amount goes to the team that’s trading him.
I like that too.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 11:43 am to Fun Bunch
quote:Dame has successfully taken his reputation from arguably the best in the NBA to James Harden level bad.
Dame allegedly will not show up to any training camp but the Miami Heat's
quote:
‘He’s a first-ballot Hall-of-Famer, so they should respect his wishes.’"
The Blazers have paid him hundreds of millions of dollars, Dame should respect their wishes.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 11:53 am to TeddyPadillac
quote:
I like that too.
With that, you have the issue where the player won't come out and request a trade, they will just act like shite head Harden did in Houston.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 11:56 am to shel311
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The Blazers have paid him hundreds of millions of dollars, Dame should respect their wishes.
It's almost like these people have never heard of a contract. Why even have contracts longer than a year now if the players should be able to choose where they play in any given year? He didn't sign an extension to play in the NBA, he signed an extension to play for the Blazers.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 12:05 pm to Epic Cajun
quote:
hey will just act like shite head Harden did in Houston.
That’s when you fine and suspend them for conduct detrimental to the team/league.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 12:12 pm to Fun Bunch
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Dame allegedly will not show up to any training camp but the Miami Heat's
There should be zero tolerance for this. I don't know how, but NBA needs to step in.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 12:15 pm to CP3forMVP
quote:
There should be zero tolerance for this. I don't know how, but NBA needs to step in.
I don't believe players get paid for training camp. The rules would let teams fine him for missing games though. Those are the rules the league has to work with to "step in". But I can't imagine Dame actually staying home rather than playing with Embiid, or Zion and BI. Now if he gets traded somewhere with too much youth like OKC, I could see him backing up his threat.
This post was edited on 7/7/23 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 7/7/23 at 12:16 pm to CP3forMVP
These are empty threats to steer these trade talks. I doubt it actually happens if he gets traded somewhere besides Miami. A lot of PTSD from AD on here.
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