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Posted on 10/23/22 at 11:05 pm to
Posted by oncealurker
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Posted on 10/23/22 at 11:05 pm to
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Lost Angeles coach Darvin Ham


Posted by longhorn22
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Posted on 10/24/22 at 9:18 am to
Just here for the popcorn...
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 10/24/22 at 9:47 am to
LINK

From Shams "Notebook" in The Athletic:

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In the very early stages of the season, Westbrook has had some spurts of solid defense and energy plays, but has also shot just 28.9 percent from the field and 8.3 percent from 3-point land. As a team, the Lakers are shooting just 21 percent from 3. While Anthony Davis and LeBron James have played at their usual high level to start the year and Lonnie Walker IV and Juan Toscano-Anderson have been bright spots, the Lakers are still trying to find the best rotations to provide shooting and playmaking around their Big 2.

The Lakers and Pacers extensively discussed a potential deal sending Myles Turner and Buddy Hield to L.A. during the offseason, as The Athletic reported in early October, but no deal formed ahead of training camp. The Lakers and Pacers discussed several packages, but Indiana’s demand for both of the Lakers’ first-round picks in 2027 and 2029 prevented a deal from coming to fruition. Turner suffered an ankle sprain during warmups before the Pacers’ season opener last Wednesday, but is expected to return soon.

In a perfect world, the Lakers had hoped Westbrook would find a complimentary role in Ham’s system, but as sources have told The Athletic over the past month, the organization planned to keep an open mind with trade opportunities to improve the team. Potential trade partners across the league have wanted one or two unprotected first-rounders from the Lakers in all deal frameworks, which creates a battle over price and value.

Several more trade avenues are expected to open as the season goes on, as teams fall out of the postseason race and turn their attention toward top prospects Victor Wembanyama and Scoot Henderson.

Charlotte’s Terry Rozier emerged as a trade target for the Lakers in the offseason and their interest in him remains high, multiple sources tell The Athletic. The Lakers and Hornets held discussions about a possible three- or four-team trade during the summer, and hold him in high regard among their possible trade possibilities, but the dynamic Hornets guard’s availability will be entirely predicated on the franchise’s direction for the future and its play as the season goes on. Despite LaMelo Ball being sidelined with a Grade 2 ankle sprain and Rozier recently suffering his own sprained ankle, the Hornets and coach Steve Clifford are off to a 2-1 start in the Eastern Conference.

The Lakers have also held preliminary discussions with the Spurs in recent weeks, sources said, showing interest in three-and-D wing Josh Richardson. The 6-foot-5 Richardson has averaged nearly 13 points to start the season, shooting 47.1 percent on 5.67 three-point attempts per game. So expect the Lakers to continue to keep tabs with the Spurs, Hornets and Pacers as a potential trade partner as the season wears on.

For now, the Lakers appear determined to give the current roster a proper sample size of 20-to-25 games and assess their needs. Lakers vice president of basketball operations Rob Pelinka is tasked with balancing the team’s current state versus the future when using the only two first-round picks eligible to be traded for the remainder of this decade. And for the Lakers, the proper deal will take patience, strategy, internal resolve and growth.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 10/24/22 at 10:04 am to
Some memes and fun:
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Tupac if Russell Westbrook was the shooter



From @barryonhere:
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Father Time can't stop LeBron, so he sent Russell Westbrook to do the job.

From Bill Simmons:
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Remember this was all Frank Vogel’s fault.

From ReggiSaxx:
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Shitting on westbrook ain’t even fun anymore i feel like im bullying a disabled kid.




Posted by PTLSU
New Orleans
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Posted on 10/24/22 at 10:39 am to
"No, Russ, NO!"

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Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 10/24/22 at 10:54 am to
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0-3 start

I love it so much



Its the best. We are gonna sweep the Lakers this year to help you all out

I hope the Lakers end up in last place
Posted by teke184
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 10/24/22 at 11:01 am to
That Jazz loss last night wasn’t good for us but keep in mind… they play the Lakers twice in the first 15 games and the Jazz were seen as a horribly tanking team.

That may be another two losses for the Lake Show before things get prettier.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 10/24/22 at 1:18 pm to
Perk says that the Lakers have to send Westbrook home until they can find a trade for him. Video:

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This post was edited on 10/24/22 at 1:26 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 10/24/22 at 1:45 pm to
Good luck with that.

If they play him, it hurts the team.

If they send him home… they still have little volume scoring.


Good thing for them that they have a pick swap with us, otherwise Silver would be taking aim at them for tanking.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 10/24/22 at 2:05 pm to
Another problem with sending Westbrook home is that Dennis Schroder and Thomas Bryant are likely to be out for another couple of weeks. One of the Lakers' two-way guys, Cole Swider, just fractured his foot, the team said today.

If the Lakers sent Westbrook home today, that would leave them with only 13 reasonably healthy bodies, with one of those being two-way player Scotty Pippen Jr.

If Westbrook is sent home and no trade ends up happening until the deadline, and if the Lakers get a couple more injuries, then that roster could look really thin. And that would lead to Davis and LeBron playing really long minutes -- not a good plan.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 10/24/22 at 2:15 pm to
If Pippen plays over X number of games, they are required to either give him a full contract or cut him.
Posted by longhorn22
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 10/24/22 at 2:23 pm to
How are the Lakers a top 3 defensive team right now thru 3 games?

Saw somewhere they lead the league. Then saw they were 3rd in another...

Still wtf.

If you are going to play defense, why not focus on scoring in methods you are better at. Kind of like a football team not having a guy that can beat you in the air, but can play great defense. Just stick to what you are good at.
Posted by LilWezyAna
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Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 10/24/22 at 2:31 pm to
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If you are going to play defense, why not focus on scoring in methods you are better at

This shitty Lakers team could be 2-1 if they just scored in ways that made sense instead of shooting 100 threes. They have been playing some good defense somehow
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 10/24/22 at 2:37 pm to
The Lakers are dead last in ORtg

The difference between them in 30th and the 29th ranked team is the same as the difference between the 29th ranked team and the 14th ranked team.
Posted by Balsamic_duck
Member since Jun 2017
4450 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 2:47 pm to
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The Lakers are dead last in ORtg

The difference between them in 30th and the 29th ranked team is the same as the difference between the 29th ranked team and the 14th ranked team.


I also think their defense is hanging on by a thread. AD has looked really good on D but behind him they have no rim protection. 1 rolled ankle for AD and their defense evaporates
Posted by cgrand
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 10/24/22 at 5:07 pm to
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What’s amazing is that, according to Second Spectrum, the Lakers have had the league’s second-best shot quality in regard to the type of shot, its location, and how contested it is. The catch is that the metric doesn’t take into account the quality of the shooters. Russell Westbrook has the worst effective field goal percentage (30.3%) among 100 players with at least 30 field goal attempts, but he’s not alone when it comes to shooting poorly from the perimeter. Eight different Lakers have attempted more than five 3-pointers and all eight have shot worse than 30% on those attempts.

The Lakers should probably adopt the Raptors’ approach and just crash the boards like crazy, knowing that not many of their shots are going in. But they rank last in offensive rebounding percentage, having grabbed just 22.3% of available offensive boards and totaled just 22 second-chance points over their three games.
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
26662 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 5:22 pm to
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just crash the boards like crazy


But that takes a lot of effort and no real glory.
Posted by Doink
VA
Member since Sep 2012
416 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 5:36 pm to
Russ = preseason Naji - defense
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
12295 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 6:13 pm to
Its nice when your tank commander plays for another team. It's like Bledsoe under SVG... why did he even see the floor.
Posted by cgrand
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Member since Oct 2009
48793 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 7:20 pm to
the best thing about GOATbrook is that he has the balls to take that shot with 18 seconds left on the shot clock. It may have been the worst NBA shot decision in decades and he absolutely does not give a frick
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