re: 2022-23 Lakers Thread

Like who and where?

Almost all of them were cut and played for multiple teams during the year..

He needs to extend by at least one year to justify the Lakers trading any picks.

If he isn’t willing to do that, Lakers may as well recoup what they can.

I’d have to see how much the Jazz get back in picks to judge this.

The Knicks get what they want and the Lakers get a major shot in the arm of talent but the Lakers would probably have to throw in swaps on top of the 27 and 29 picks.

Edit - Tried this in trade machine, will not work as constructed.

Knicks aren’t sending out enough money (ANY in fact) and have to send out around 25-35m to absorb a $30m contract.

Jazz can’t aggregate PBev or Beasley into any trade until enough time has passed from the Gobert trade OR it is a non-simultaneous trade.

That's the issue that I've always had with it. Even if they get their ideal trade of Westbrook for Irving, are they a top 4 favorite to win the title? I don't think so, they'd still severely lack the defense required to make a long playoff run. So, are they really going to mortgage the rest of their future for a second round exit? Doesn't seem very smart to me.

They have fricked their future so hard it isn’t funny… to them.


As of now, they look to be a shitshow going into this season unless they can move Westbrick. If nothing happens, they likely finish in the lottery and swap picks with us since we should make the playoffs.

If they do a straight dump of Westbrook, they likely compete this year for a play-in level spot at the expense of whatever assets they dropped to move him.

If they lay out two unprotected firsts, they potentially get enough talent to be mid-level playoff team but are kicking the can down the road minus a LeBron extension.


There are no good plays for them and the Westbrook trade combined with letting Caruso walk did it to them.

I’d pile on about the AD trade but they don’t even get a bubblechip without him given the problems there after they failed to get AD in mid season the year before. Lonzo, BI, Hart, and others were done with LeBron when he tried to move them while keeping his Klutch cronies.

I find it all very satisfying.

Yesterday Eddie Johnson was going on and on about how great a GM LEbron is b/c he made it to 8 straight finals. He doesn't buy the excuse he made it b/c he's great, nor did he care that the teams he left fall apart b/c of the terrible contracts they are left with.


This Lakers team could have had a starting lineup of Lebron/AD/DeRozan/Caruso/Hield, but GM Lebron like Lebron/AD/Westbrook/Monk/Bradley

LeBron the player is/was great.

LeBron the GM is a fricking putz who blows his team’s entire sets of assets then moves on like a parasite, blaming the team for not getting him what he needs to win.


That few players have ever played next to LeBron and come off better for it is part of the issue. He needs his style of play to thrive and anyone brought in is a complementary piece to do that rather than bringing their own skills to the table.

A lot of guys don’t want to spend their prime earning years taking less than normal to play next to a guy that will cause them to get no credit for wins but take blame for losses.

Possible but unlikely IMHO.

Pressure would be on from various places to play Westbrick or trade him rather than sit him.


The Rockets et all have gotten away with it with John Wall and so forth for a variety of reasons. Harder to pull that off with the Lakers, especially given how public this whole clusterfrick has been.

The league will want names playing. LeBron will want Westbrook flipped for assets. Jeannie Buss will balk at paying a guy $47m plus luxury tax to sit at home.

None of that goes together well.

I see is using the swap barring a major disaster for us.

Whatever we get is free money IMHO because, frankly, we are on the upswing and we should likely be picking in the 20s for the next few years.

Do I think we are getting Wematanye? Not necessarily. Would be nice, but I just look at it as getting probably a 5-10 spot bump in draft order, if not more.

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you just need guys like Trey and Dyson to live up to their potential.

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its a lot to ask.
is Daniels able to play now?
I've seen guesswork that Daniels won't be in the playoff rotation. did his injury set him back from intended preparation in summer league. I'm seeing where he starts in the minor league team but gets practice time with the A team too.