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2022-23 Lakers Thread
Posted on 6/23/22 at 10:10 am
Posted on 6/23/22 at 10:10 am
Last year's thread went for 2442 posts and 123 pages, as we watched our hopes of getting a top-10 pick materialize. The 2021-22 Lakers' experiment with Russell Westbrook was every bit the massive failure that we hoped it would be (and, honestly, that all the analytics expected it to be).
Now the Lakers face a new challenge. Since we have pick-swap rights in the 2023 draft, can the Lakers again deliver us a top-10 draft pick?
They are contractually bound to pay Westbrook another $47 million, unless they somehow find a way to trade him. Of course, it's the $47 million that makes a trade almost impossible, and new coach Darvin Ham was specifically hired to make the LeBron/Davis/Westbrook chemistry work. But, of course, it's not out of the question that they could try to use their 2027 and/or 2029 picks to move Westbrook.
Another problem for the Lakers is that LeBron/Davis/Westbrook will together make $130 million, meaning that the Lakers will be over the cap and in the tax. Even if they somehow find a taker for Westbrook and his $47 million, they would have to take $40 million back in that trade, so they would still end up above the tax line, as they also have THT's $10.2 million and Kendrick Nunn's $5.2 million on the books.
Those five players are the only ones currently under contract for this upcoming season. The Lakers have team options on Stanley Johnson, Austin Reaves, and Wenyen Gabriel, but the following are all unrestricted free agents:
Carmelo Anthony
D.J. Augustin
Kent Bazemore
Avery Bradley
Jared Dudley
Wayne Ellington
Dwight Howard
Malik Monk
Dion Waiters
Kostas Antetokounmpo
How many of those guys want to come back again and play for a minimum salary on a bottom-feeding team and deal with all the drama?
Malik Monk almost certainly does not. He was a true bright spot for the Lakers last season and is due for a significant payday, but the most the Lakers can offer him is the taxpayer exception of $6.4 million, which is likely less than Monk can get elsewhere.
So, filling out a roster is going to be difficult -- and do the Lakers even want another year of old guys like Carmelo Anthony and Dwight Howard?
A new chapter starts tonight. The Lakers do have about $4.4 million in trade exceptions that they could use to try to pick up a 2nd-round pick, and/or to try to dump THT. It will be interesting to see what moves they try to make.
The overall outlook for Lakers fans:
...
Now the Lakers face a new challenge. Since we have pick-swap rights in the 2023 draft, can the Lakers again deliver us a top-10 draft pick?
They are contractually bound to pay Westbrook another $47 million, unless they somehow find a way to trade him. Of course, it's the $47 million that makes a trade almost impossible, and new coach Darvin Ham was specifically hired to make the LeBron/Davis/Westbrook chemistry work. But, of course, it's not out of the question that they could try to use their 2027 and/or 2029 picks to move Westbrook.
Another problem for the Lakers is that LeBron/Davis/Westbrook will together make $130 million, meaning that the Lakers will be over the cap and in the tax. Even if they somehow find a taker for Westbrook and his $47 million, they would have to take $40 million back in that trade, so they would still end up above the tax line, as they also have THT's $10.2 million and Kendrick Nunn's $5.2 million on the books.
Those five players are the only ones currently under contract for this upcoming season. The Lakers have team options on Stanley Johnson, Austin Reaves, and Wenyen Gabriel, but the following are all unrestricted free agents:
Carmelo Anthony
D.J. Augustin
Kent Bazemore
Avery Bradley
Jared Dudley
Wayne Ellington
Dwight Howard
Malik Monk
Dion Waiters
Kostas Antetokounmpo
How many of those guys want to come back again and play for a minimum salary on a bottom-feeding team and deal with all the drama?
Malik Monk almost certainly does not. He was a true bright spot for the Lakers last season and is due for a significant payday, but the most the Lakers can offer him is the taxpayer exception of $6.4 million, which is likely less than Monk can get elsewhere.
So, filling out a roster is going to be difficult -- and do the Lakers even want another year of old guys like Carmelo Anthony and Dwight Howard?
A new chapter starts tonight. The Lakers do have about $4.4 million in trade exceptions that they could use to try to pick up a 2nd-round pick, and/or to try to dump THT. It will be interesting to see what moves they try to make.
The overall outlook for Lakers fans:
...
This post was edited on 6/23/22 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 6/23/22 at 10:13 am to GOP_Tiger
Looking forward to another top 10 pick
Posted on 6/23/22 at 10:14 am to GOP_Tiger
Lakers make the playoffs next year
Posted on 6/23/22 at 10:17 am to geauxtigers87
The Top 10 swap will be delicious.
Posted on 6/23/22 at 10:20 am to LSUFreek
I’m thinking top 5 swap.
Lake Show doesn’t even have a starting lineup while every team in the west is either improving or will still not drop to their level.
If they send out Westbrick and get decent but overpaid pieces, I think they may be at the 10-14 range.
If they run it back, it’s going to be ugly for them.
Lake Show doesn’t even have a starting lineup while every team in the west is either improving or will still not drop to their level.
If they send out Westbrick and get decent but overpaid pieces, I think they may be at the 10-14 range.
If they run it back, it’s going to be ugly for them.
Posted on 6/23/22 at 10:50 am to GOP_Tiger
For once, I’m enjoying Lebron doing Lebron things by not tipping his hand for an extension and forcing the Lakers to make moves that deplete future assets.
Posted on 6/23/22 at 11:09 am to teke184
Is it crazy to see another year where the Kings may be more competitive than the Lakers??
Also I’m IN, F LeGM and his shitty decisions/opinions
Also I’m IN, F LeGM and his shitty decisions/opinions
Posted on 6/23/22 at 11:16 am to YungBuck
They blew their load getting AD and all subsequent deals have been to keep a few key guys while cutting whatever else they could.
Lowballing Caruso is likely the dagger for them, IMHO. If they keep Caruso and trade / lowball THT, Caruso helps space for LeBron and AD, which they were missing last season due to moving KCP and Kuzma to get Westbrick.
Lowballing Caruso is likely the dagger for them, IMHO. If they keep Caruso and trade / lowball THT, Caruso helps space for LeBron and AD, which they were missing last season due to moving KCP and Kuzma to get Westbrick.
Posted on 6/23/22 at 11:28 am to teke184
frick the Lakers and all their trashy arse Westbank fans
Posted on 6/23/22 at 11:30 am to GOP_Tiger
one more note:
any sign & trade will hard-cap the lakers at the tax apron. unfortunately (for them) a S/T is really the only viable way for them to get any legitimate free agent.
they are in a pickle
any sign & trade will hard-cap the lakers at the tax apron. unfortunately (for them) a S/T is really the only viable way for them to get any legitimate free agent.
they are in a pickle
Posted on 6/23/22 at 11:31 am to saints5021
Can’t wait until Sacramento drafts Bronny and LeBron has to take his talents to Arco Arena.
Posted on 6/23/22 at 11:32 am to Fun Bunch
quote:
Lakers make the playoffs next year
1. GSW
2. Dallas
3. Memphis
4. Denver
5. NOLA
6. PHX (could fall off big time)
7. Minny
8. LAC
The only team they could maybe pass is PHX and I still doubt that.
More likely they're behind:
9. SA
10. Utah
And are fighting with Portland and Sac for 11.
The only teams I think the Lakers are better than is the Rockets and OKC. Maybe the Kings
Posted on 6/23/22 at 11:32 am to cgrand
They can get Kyrie without a sign and trade but the chances are low.
Kyrie has to opt in but also force Brooklyn to move him there. LA has shite for assets, everyone knows he and Brooklyn are at odds, and having him expire next season means they don’t HAVE to do anything they don’t want to do.
Kyrie has to opt in but also force Brooklyn to move him there. LA has shite for assets, everyone knows he and Brooklyn are at odds, and having him expire next season means they don’t HAVE to do anything they don’t want to do.
Posted on 6/23/22 at 11:34 am to ghost2most
Rockets and OKC are getting a lot of young talent and have the ability to bring in more pieces.
LA has nothing, can’t sign much more, and has no assets to help fill out the current roster.
I see them being godawful because they aren’t getting the ring chasers they used to get.
LA has nothing, can’t sign much more, and has no assets to help fill out the current roster.
I see them being godawful because they aren’t getting the ring chasers they used to get.
Posted on 6/23/22 at 11:37 am to teke184
quote:
Kyrie has to opt in but also force Brooklyn to move him there.
his player option is 36MM. BKN would have to take back westbrook is he opts in? (i'm not doing the math)
hows that gonna work?
Posted on 6/23/22 at 11:38 am to GOP_Tiger
I think the Kyrie to Lakers smoke is just that, smoke. He's using the Lakers to leverage Brooklyn. Brooklyn is trying to sell Kyrie an Embiid style max contract with games played leading to guaranteeing future years. So for Kyrie to go to the Lakers without Brooklyn helping it'd have to be on the Tax Payer MLE swapping over $30 million per year for $6.
You also have the whispers that if Kyrie leaves KD will demand out. So in the end I expect one of Kyrie/Brooklyn to blink and agree on a contract so he won't be going to save the Lakers at a massive discount.
You also have the whispers that if Kyrie leaves KD will demand out. So in the end I expect one of Kyrie/Brooklyn to blink and agree on a contract so he won't be going to save the Lakers at a massive discount.
This post was edited on 6/23/22 at 11:43 am
Posted on 6/23/22 at 11:39 am to cgrand
Third team to take WB and two future LA firsts. Must have enough cap space to absorb Westbrook while sending $35m or so to Brooklyn.
Highly unlikely but one such possibility is Myles Turner and another $18m or so from Indy.
Highly unlikely but one such possibility is Myles Turner and another $18m or so from Indy.
Posted on 6/23/22 at 11:42 am to teke184
gotcha
yes, highly unlikely (and would require the pacers to want to do that, which...why?). that would mean a full tear-down in IND which they've never done before
yes, highly unlikely (and would require the pacers to want to do that, which...why?). that would mean a full tear-down in IND which they've never done before
Posted on 6/23/22 at 11:44 am to geauxtigers87
What do we have left on the AD trade? Swap next year or take the following year?
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