re: 2021 NBA Trade thread BREAKING: Bagley to Pistons in 4 team deal

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Sato, Hayes, Graham and a first?

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This one, but I have to get Norm or Nance back also, then sign Jose to a full contract (they take Didi just as filler to open up a roster spot for us).

CJ/Norm/Jose/Kira
Hart/Norm/NAW
Ingram/Hart/Temple/Naji
Zion/Herb/Trey/Clark (2 way)
Val/Billy

That should be a pretty competitive team.

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This one, but I have to get Norm or Nance back also

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If you're getting Powell and CJ, then you'll probably have to do Hart and JVal, I'd guess.

Yes, they are very different and you kindof answered your own question. They are at least in the same ballpark of player, but Jonas makes 16, 15 and 14. CJ makes 30, 33, and 35

Not to mention the Pels would be blowing a hole in their roster by moving their starting center. Blazers have a ton of guards and can move Cj.

Hey, maybe there is a deal that nets us Nurkic on a new deal that makes sense, but I doubt it.

We aren’t going to take on both CJ and Powell. Way too much money. It’s going to be one or the other, with CJ making the most sense positionally.

You are very very much overvaluing CJ on that contract. The Pels may be the only team willing to take it on, hence why they are the only team you really see mentioned for him. The Blazers also have luxury tax concerns both immediate, and moving forward. Besides Simons likely getting a big payday coming, Nurkic and Covington are free agents. Something has to give on that roster. Their goal is to break Cj into smaller pieces that are more manageable.

Herb Jones alone has massively more value, not even because of the massive age difference, but because of the massive difference in the size of their contracts.

Jake Madison had a whole episode on Powell today, if anyone is interested in that trade.

Haha, I’ve been mentioning McCollum for a long time now. Much of what I am sharing comes from the Blazers side of things and Blazers fans. They are not expecting a lot to get off of the Cj contract. And the Blazers will be making some move before the deadline to get under the tax. It doesn’t have to be CJ of course, but they will not just stand pat until the off-season.

I am not your typical fan trying to say the other team has to trade us their best player. CJ is an obvious target directly because he is such a distressed asset. His age and salary are what make him attainable, not to mention the existence of Lillard, Powel and Simons on that roster.

Saying it takes a Herb Jones would be the flip side of that coin. Trying too hard to be overly negative. No one knows what a real trade is going to look like. But if it happens, I promise you I will be closer.

Potential impact on the trade market and the Blazers willingness to deal is that Nassir Little is out for the rest of the season with a labrum tear.

I wonder if that speeds up the Blazers to activate the tank and thus opening up the momentum to a McCollum and/or Covington trade?

I really don’t see McCollum getting moved at the deadline. Contracts that size very rarely do and they have time to wait till the off-season.

Moving Covington makes the most sense. They’re not going to resign him and is someone that can fit on nearly all the contending teams both positionally and contract-wise.

I don’t guess I follow the difference you are making now Bronc. Going from Hart and Herb to Hart and Graham is not a small step in this conversation. Herb is infinitely more valuable. And you are saying Hart and Graham is an appropriate deal. My ballparks were Sato, Hayes, Graham and a first, or Sato, Hayes, and Hart. I’m failing to see how my hypotheticals were “blind fan thinking the other team has to trade with us”.