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re: 100 percent Coaching…Willie’s time is up.

Posted on 12/26/23 at 10:26 pm to
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
9055 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 10:26 pm to
Lets talk about Willie putting Dyson on JJJ; pulling JV in OT; ATO play was Zion v 3 grizzly players. The overall coaching on this team is worse than Gentry and SVG. It’s probably the worse ive seen in a long time. Even Monty was better than this.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111101 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 10:27 pm to
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It's pretty fixable. They have this crazy fricking rule in the league where you can stop the possession if you have the ball to draw up a play. I think it's called a timeout.
Not gonna happen. Willie ain't it. These are simple things, if he doesn't realize this already he won't magically learn later.
Posted by 504Voodoo
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2012
13539 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 10:28 pm to
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Willie has taken this team as far as he can take it.


He's our Mark Jackson
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
9055 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 10:29 pm to
Thats an insult to Mark Jackson.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111101 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 10:30 pm to
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know Z got the charge in OT and it was a bad play, but it's still mind boggling that we don't try to run plays in late game situations to get Z free and moving downhill. There will never be a time where a BI iso is a better play than a Zion drive, even if it does wind up working occasionally
Notice how Ja facilitates every single play in the final 3 minutes or so of every close game...

Same for Luka, Lebron, Jokic and so on and so forth....

Zion should touch the ball and facilitate every single late game possession.


And if the plan is for BI to do so, which it clearly is, Zion should legit be on the bench. He's a net negative player without the ball in his hands(counting defense) so why leave him on the court if you won't make the obvious decision to let the game go through him
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
9055 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 10:30 pm to
Willie rather lose the game and make these things learning moments. I’m not even joking. He’ll keep losing because he thinks its better for the players to figure it out.
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
10468 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 10:33 pm to
I'm pretty sure Geeen's goal is to allow BI to play his preferred style. If you give Zion the ball, that can't happen.

Willie will never establish an hierarchy. He's going down with the 1a and 1b bullshite.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111101 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 10:35 pm to
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I'm pretty sure Geeen's goal is to allow BI to play his preferred style. If you give Zion the ball, that can't happen.

Willie will never establish an hierarchy. He's going down with the 1a and 1b bullshite.
I think the hierarchy is crystal clear, and it's BI is the #1 option.

And that's not going to work.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
9055 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 10:36 pm to
SVG made Zion the first option and got fired for it. BI as first option will get us nowhere.
Posted by ThePistol
Lafayette, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1529 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 10:37 pm to
I refuse to blame the players. If you watched a Milwaukee Bucks game and they pulled Giannis with 10 point lead with almost 7min left in the third and didn’t put him back in until they were losing by 3 with 30 seconds left in the third then pulled him again with a 3 point lead at the 7:20 mark of the fourth. Then, he comes back in at the 4 min mark of the fourth but only as a spacer in the corner and Dame is forced to post up at the 15ft mark with 6 sec on the shot clock. You would blame Giannis and Dame??? There wasn’t one single play call to get Zion and BI together in an action. Coaching malpractice.

We have no idea what Zion and BI are capable of together because we have a coach who doesn’t even put them in a position to work together.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70927 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 10:38 pm to
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Lets talk about Willie putting Dyson on JJJ


This was egregious
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
9055 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 10:38 pm to
I dont think ran one BI/Zion pick and roll. I didn’t see one Zion/Trey actuon either. Like I don’t get it man lol
This post was edited on 12/26/23 at 10:39 pm
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
29534 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 10:39 pm to
Is it because Zion isn’t capable of playing as many minutes as we need from him
Posted by ROUSTER
Member since Sep 2003
6886 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 10:39 pm to
problem is zion is a bumbling fool with ball late in the game, a straight turnover machine.
And bi just wants to take contested low percentage shots.
And anyone else who gets to touch it are so shocked they completely miss the goal.
Posted by ThePistol
Lafayette, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1529 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 10:42 pm to
Because they are both asked to just play one on one.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70927 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 10:42 pm to
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I dont think ran one BI/Zion pick and roll


They can’t be on the floor together bc the offensive scheme doesn’t work

It’s maddening

Zion elbow 1 v 1 or BI iso or pick n roll with someone else
Posted by ThePistol
Lafayette, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1529 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 10:44 pm to
That is a coaching issue.
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
23651 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 10:45 pm to
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Zion should touch the ball and facilitate every single late game possession.


he's way too turnover prone for us to do that...
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
9055 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 10:46 pm to
Thats partly because they’re crowding the paint because of no shooters on the floor
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22815 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 10:50 pm to
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problem is zion is a bumbling fool with ball late in the game, a straight turnover machine.


I think a lot of this is because refs start swallowing their whistle on increased contact he gets at the end of games.

The bad thing is we also see the bull shite gifts refs give our opponents as observed in the last 1.5 seconds of this game.
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