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re: What if Van Halen never existed?
Posted on 12/15/23 at 8:08 pm to SaintlyTiger88
Posted on 12/15/23 at 8:08 pm to SaintlyTiger88
Not one thing would be altered..not one bit. They influenced no bands of note. Sorry, but just because you are a fan does not elevate their importance. A brilliant but somewhat unimaginative guitarist leading a garage band with a strutting arse as a lead singer. No come at me, bitches!
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Posted on 12/15/23 at 8:19 pm to nealnan8
Say what you will about DLR, but that man influenced most of the frontmen of the 80’s hard rock bands. And Eddie Van Halen is unimaginative?? Sir, have you listened to a little tune called Eruption??
Posted on 12/15/23 at 8:20 pm to SaintlyTiger88
quote:The book I read featured truly shameful treatment of Michael Anthony.
Why do you say that? I’ve always heard good things about Anthony and AVH, and they sound great.
Posted on 12/16/23 at 3:15 am to SaintlyTiger88
quote:Nope
I think we all can agree Van Halen is one of the all time great rock bands
Posted on 12/16/23 at 7:20 am to nealnan8
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Not one thing would be altered..not one bit. They influenced no bands of note.
Bad take is bad.
Posted on 12/16/23 at 8:04 am to AlxTgr
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quote:Van Halen is one of the all time great rock bands
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Nope
80M record sales suggest otherwise. VH was far and away the biggest rock band on the planet in the early-mid 80's.
Posted on 12/16/23 at 8:12 am to YNWA
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That whole L.A. Sunset Strip scene would have never materialized.
That is a stretch.
“Sunset Strip” was a thing well before Van Halen.
Posted on 12/16/23 at 8:25 am to samson73103
quote:Begs to differ.
80M record sales suggest otherwise. VH was far and away the biggest rock band on the planet in the early-mid 80's.
Not sure how they tabulate and just the first that popped up in a search. And not to say they weren't popular just that so were the eagle's and bon jovi (if you get what I mean)
IE: 80's rock is what made me set it aside for quite a while
Posted on 12/16/23 at 8:31 am to makersmark1
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And as much as hair metal was a big part of the 80s... Artists like Michael Jackson and Madonna still dominated..
Eddie Van Halen greatly added to the Michael Jackson phenomenon with his guitar work on "Beat It."
Posted on 12/16/23 at 10:28 am to samson73103
quote:It absolutely does not
80M record sales suggest otherwise
Posted on 12/16/23 at 11:57 am to awestruck
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the eagle's and bon jovi
The Eagles are arguably the greatest band of all time but their style of music is totally different from Van Halen so not sure why they are being mentioned. Bon Jovi didn't really become a big deal until the late 80's after DLR left VH.
As far as album sales, I can find several sources that put VH worldwide album sales in the 75-80M range.
Posted on 12/16/23 at 12:37 pm to samson73103
As far as shredders go, Malmsteen was already doing his neoclassical stuff in 1978. He claims his interest in Van Halen 1 was more the general approach to rhythm and songcrafting than the solos.
Besides, if the Powerhouse demos really were from 1978 when Yngwie was a teen, he was light years ahead of Eddie (and Randy) in terms of technique anyway.
DLR got his whole shtick from Jim Dandy of Black Oak Arkansas.
Besides, if the Powerhouse demos really were from 1978 when Yngwie was a teen, he was light years ahead of Eddie (and Randy) in terms of technique anyway.
DLR got his whole shtick from Jim Dandy of Black Oak Arkansas.
Posted on 12/16/23 at 6:49 pm to SaintlyTiger88
No disrespect to Van Halen, but hadn’t Page and Plant already set the template for what you describe through Led Zeppelin, some years earlier?
I figured Roth and Eddie were emulating them to some degree.
I figured Roth and Eddie were emulating them to some degree.
Posted on 12/16/23 at 7:33 pm to samson73103
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The Eagles are arguably the greatest band of all time
That would be The Beatles
Posted on 12/16/23 at 7:41 pm to SaintlyTiger88
I would be pleased. Very pleased.
Posted on 12/16/23 at 7:41 pm to Bayou
I believe the Eagles’ catalog has stood the test of time better than the Beatles’.
Some of the Beatles’ stuff sounds terribly dated to my ears.
Some of the Beatles’ stuff sounds terribly dated to my ears.
Posted on 12/17/23 at 10:12 am to SaintlyTiger88
Randy Rhoads would not have died in a plane crash. Yngwie may not have been such a prick. Al Di Meola could have inspired jazzier rock.
This post was edited on 12/17/23 at 10:14 am
Posted on 12/18/23 at 8:31 am to rebelrouser
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Rainbow, Judas Priest, Black Sabbath, Kiss, UFO, Scorpions, Aerosmith, AC/DC were all doing something similar at the same time. Van Halen were great but so were all those other contemporary bands.
But I think Van Halen brought women into the heavy metal scene. VH songs weren’t as dark and made way for a female audience and emergence of bands like Bon Jovi, Whitesnake, etc.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 9:41 am to SaintlyTiger88
We would have been spared David
Lee Roth. So there’s that.
Eddie was a gifted player, but he lacked nuance, emotion and style.
Lee Roth. So there’s that.
Eddie was a gifted player, but he lacked nuance, emotion and style.
Posted on 12/19/23 at 12:45 am to VOR
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Eddie was a gifted player, but he lacked nuance, emotion and style.
I don’t understand that though. For not having what you mentioned, he was pretty influential and changed the game. Also, Eruption.
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