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Was it because the Beastie Boys were white?
Posted on 7/5/18 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 7/5/18 at 12:55 pm
Have never understood the appeal. I remember back in the day with Fight for your Right going "ok.......", but every once in a while I'm across one of their songs and I don't get it. If they're mainly rap, it's super simplistic and boring stuff. I get that a lot of early rap was that way but even with Hello Nasty, the last one I remember giving much time to, it was essentially the same thing. If they're rock, well poop on that as well.
Someone educate me. I'll admit if I'm an uncultured swine, but prove it to me.
RIP MCA
Someone educate me. I'll admit if I'm an uncultured swine, but prove it to me.
RIP MCA
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Posted on 7/5/18 at 1:33 pm to Demon Dean
quote:
I shot homeboy but the bullet was a dud So I reached in the Miller cooler, grabbed a cool Bud
If you can't grasp the poetic superiority of this lyric in comparison to anything that these mongrels are spitting today, then I just feel sorry for you.
Posted on 7/5/18 at 1:45 pm to High C
ok
this is good
go on
this is good
go on
Posted on 7/5/18 at 2:01 pm to Demon Dean
quote:
Have never understood the appeal.
I mean... you can't listen to other hiphop albums of the time and hear that License to Ill was among the best of the genre?
They were present at the beginning of the hiphop explosion. Their music then was innovative and fun, and they straddled the fence between mainstream and art that allowed them to remain cool and relevant for decades. They also mixed up there sound to stay fresh--experimenting with punk and other genres.
Posted on 7/5/18 at 2:05 pm to Demon Dean
I think you're confusing the straightforwardness of boom bap style with simplicity. Moving beyond the lyrical aspects, here's a good video on samples from Licensed to Ill:
LINK
Paul's Boutique is almost to dense to categorize. Here's a starter on the sample layering and lyrical references song by song:
LINK
LINK
Paul's Boutique is almost to dense to categorize. Here's a starter on the sample layering and lyrical references song by song:
LINK
Posted on 7/5/18 at 2:07 pm to Demon Dean
I asked myself this the other day. It probably had a little to do with white suburban kids wanting to like rap, but only accepting it coming from some white guys. But they weren't terrible. If you can't like Sabatoge, No Sleep Till Brooklyn, Paul Revere, Intergalactic, etc......I don't know what to tell you.
Posted on 7/5/18 at 2:20 pm to KG6
I don't hate them necessarily. And again maybe it's a thing where I missed it in the moment, but I don't get how they were one of the biggest, well known, rap acts in the 80's.
Hate this song. So many reasons why, but whatever.
Was a big hit with me and my friends when it first came out and I played the crap out of it. Eventually grew tired of that "everyone shout the last word/s of the verse" thing that was very Beastie Boys.
quote:
Sabatoge
Hate this song. So many reasons why, but whatever.
quote:
Intergalactic
Was a big hit with me and my friends when it first came out and I played the crap out of it. Eventually grew tired of that "everyone shout the last word/s of the verse" thing that was very Beastie Boys.
Posted on 7/5/18 at 2:25 pm to Demon Dean
It's just kinda sad they had to piggyback off of Run DMC for the rock/rap crap they shat out.
Posted on 7/5/18 at 2:30 pm to CaptainPanic
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It's just kinda sad they had to piggyback off of Run DMC for the rock/rap crap they shat out.
Late high school/early college,
King of Rock
Raising Hell
Licensed to Ill
were revelations. Just fun stuff.
Posted on 7/5/18 at 2:41 pm to Demon Dean
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I don't get how they were one of the biggest, well known, rap acts in the 80's.
Who would you rank more highly? I'd give you Run DMC and LL Cool J, but who else?
Posted on 7/5/18 at 2:53 pm to shutterspeed
quote:
Who would you rank more highly? I'd give you Run DMC and LL Cool J, but who else?
Late 80's, NWA. That shouldn't detract from the Beasties, though. That's being in the conversation with the best, and I think they deserve that.
Posted on 7/5/18 at 3:07 pm to Rep520
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Late 80's, NWA.
That's kind of a different musical era and a different subgenre despite it being a difference of a few years. Rap had evolved quickly and was a different animal by that point.
Posted on 7/5/18 at 3:43 pm to shutterspeed
Fair enough, although I think a lot of the transition in rap at that point was NWA driven. They were legitimately the first big non-NY influence and origin point of gangsta rap.
Public Enemy is another one I would put in the best rap of the 80's conversation. PE, Run DMC, LL, NWA, Beasties...I wouldn't bat an eye at anyone who had them as the top five in the 80's. If you love Rakim, Kool Moe Dee or some others, maybe you'd protest, but the Beasties are right there regardless of preference.
Public Enemy is another one I would put in the best rap of the 80's conversation. PE, Run DMC, LL, NWA, Beasties...I wouldn't bat an eye at anyone who had them as the top five in the 80's. If you love Rakim, Kool Moe Dee or some others, maybe you'd protest, but the Beasties are right there regardless of preference.
Posted on 7/5/18 at 3:49 pm to Rep520
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Late 80's, NWA. That shouldn't detract from the Beasties, though. That's being in the conversation with the best, and I think they deserve that.
I don't think they were competing with each other or even had much to do with one another. Beastie Boys were way ahead of the suburban wangsta fad. They came out of the New York hardcore scene, were experimenting with all kinds of genres, had funny voices, and created the ultimate party anthems for the MTV generation. They were their own thing. That's why there never was a "next Beastie Boys."
Posted on 7/5/18 at 6:00 pm to Demon Dean
you've obviously never listened to Paul's Boutique
Posted on 7/5/18 at 6:45 pm to Demon Dean
Raising Hell (Run Dmc) and Licenced to Ill were basically the first two albums that introduced the average white boy in not-NOLA Louisiana to the rap genre.
And Paul’s boutique was awesome.
And Paul’s boutique was awesome.
Posted on 7/6/18 at 12:22 am to Ric Flair
Paul's Boutique is one of the best albums of the genre. OP is a fool.
Posted on 7/6/18 at 5:53 am to Rep520
quote:
Fair enough, although I think a lot of the transition in rap at that point was NWA driven. They were legitimately the first big non-NY influence and origin point of gangsta rap.
Public Enemy is another one I would put in the best rap of the 80's conversation. PE, Run DMC, LL, NWA, Beasties...I wouldn't bat an eye at anyone who had them as the top five in the 80's. If you love Rakim, Kool Moe Dee or some others, maybe you'd protest, but the Beasties are right there regardless of preference.
Nobody had ever heard of those other people in 1986 when License to Ill came out.
This post was edited on 7/6/18 at 7:50 am
Posted on 7/6/18 at 8:19 am to Demon Dean
Never got the appeal.
Posted on 7/6/18 at 8:20 am to Demon Dean
They were terrible.
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