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Question: is there any other music around the world that celebrates violence?
Posted on 1/5/21 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 1/5/21 at 3:29 pm
I know country music celebrates prisons and moonshine and, rap celebrates drugs and whatever else.... Please leave your social justice warrior glasses out of this.
I am asking in countries other than the US, do their top musical topics celebrate criminal elements?
In Italy do they serenade the mafioso life?
I am asking in countries other than the US, do their top musical topics celebrate criminal elements?
In Italy do they serenade the mafioso life?
This post was edited on 1/5/21 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 1/5/21 at 4:00 pm to Brosef Stalin
I'm trying to understand if criminal activity is more tolerant in American culture, as noted by having multiple genres of music that glorify criminal behavior.
Of course with globalization there's Japanese rap, But I'm talking about the beginning roots of different musical genres. Has violence been directly integrated into development of other forms of music around the world.
If not, why/when did violence really become a part of music?
Of course with globalization there's Japanese rap, But I'm talking about the beginning roots of different musical genres. Has violence been directly integrated into development of other forms of music around the world.
If not, why/when did violence really become a part of music?
Posted on 1/5/21 at 5:25 pm to Kujo
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why/when did violence really become a part of music?
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"Jesse James" is a 19th-century American folk song about the outlaw of the same name, first recorded by Bentley Ball in 1919
quote:"The Ballad Of Jesse James"
The lyrics are largely biographical containing a number of details from Jesse James' life, portraying him as an American version of Robin Hood, though there is no evidence to indicate that he actually "stole from the rich and gave to the poor". The song is the starting point of the Jesse James panel of a mural on American folk songs by Thomas Hart Benton.
But that dirty little coward
That shot Mr. Howard
Has laid poor Jesse in his grave.
Robert Ford, who killed Jesse, was a James' gang member. Mr. Howard was the alias that James lived under in Saint Joseph, Missouri at the time of his killing.
Posted on 1/5/21 at 5:30 pm to Kujo
Posted on 1/5/21 at 5:37 pm to Kujo
quote:Rhyging
do their top musical topics celebrate criminal elements?
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Vincent "Ivanhoe" Martin (1924–9 September 1948), known as "Rhyging", was a Jamaican criminal who became a legendary outlaw and folk hero, often regarded as the "original rude boy". He became notorious in 1948 after escaping from prison, going on the run and committing a string of robberies, murders and attempted murders before he was gunned down by police. In subsequent decades his life became mythologised in Jamaican popular culture, culminating in the 1972 cult film The Harder They Come, in which he is portrayed by Jimmy Cliff.
His nickname comes from the term rhyging, also spelled rhygin, a variant of "raging". In Jamaican Patois it is used to mean wild, hot, or bad.
Posted on 1/5/21 at 6:21 pm to Kujo
Swedish death metal and black metal celebrate violence. Germany has a hardcore scene that has songs about violence. Britain is similar to the US.
Posted on 1/5/21 at 9:36 pm to Kujo
violence and gangster shite has always been cool
Posted on 1/5/21 at 9:40 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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violence and gangster shite has always been cool
Posted on 1/5/21 at 10:39 pm to lazy
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Swedish death metal and black metal celebrate violence.
Death metal was born in Florida, baw
Posted on 1/6/21 at 10:02 am to Kujo
seems like metal would qualify.
Posted on 1/6/21 at 10:45 am to Kujo
Murder ballads, which are very much thought of as country/bluegrass/Appalachian have their roots in Europe and the British Isles.
One of the more well known, The Knoxville Girl (best known from the Louvin Brothers Tragic Songs of Life album) is based on an Irish ballad - The Wexford Girl - which was itself a derivative of the English ballad The Bloody Miller or Hanged I Shall Be. The English version was probably derived from even earlier poems.
There is actually a book called I Shot a Man in Reno: A History of Death by Murder, Suicide, Fire, Flood, Drugs, Disease and General Misadventure, as Related in Popular Song that traces some of the history.
One of the more well known, The Knoxville Girl (best known from the Louvin Brothers Tragic Songs of Life album) is based on an Irish ballad - The Wexford Girl - which was itself a derivative of the English ballad The Bloody Miller or Hanged I Shall Be. The English version was probably derived from even earlier poems.
There is actually a book called I Shot a Man in Reno: A History of Death by Murder, Suicide, Fire, Flood, Drugs, Disease and General Misadventure, as Related in Popular Song that traces some of the history.
Posted on 1/6/21 at 11:20 am to PJinAtl
Pantera celebrates kicking arse.
Posted on 1/6/21 at 1:35 pm to Kujo
It's going back a ways, but how about American Indian war drums? I know, it didn't help them win the wars...
This post was edited on 1/6/21 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 1/6/21 at 1:41 pm to PJinAtl
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Murder ballads
I was going to mention murder ballads as well.
These date back centuries in the UK, and Scandinavia. England has a long tradition of ballads telling the tales of outlaws. There are songs about Robin Hood that date back to around 1600.
Posted on 1/6/21 at 4:46 pm to Kafka
quote:Sir Elton has entered the chat
Robert Ford, who killed Jesse, was a James' gang member. Mr. Howard was the alias that James lived under in Saint Joseph, Missouri at the time of his killing.
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