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re: John Mayer is an overrated guitarist

Posted on 10/13/22 at 9:27 am to
Posted by Midget Death Squad
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Posted on 10/13/22 at 9:27 am to
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You could say Mayer is a pretentious song writer that is quite forgettable, and you would be more accurate.



This is a pretty lame statement.



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Midget Death Squad


Oh, never mind. Par for the course.




This post was edited on 10/13/22 at 9:30 am
Posted by jdd48
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Posted on 10/13/22 at 10:27 am to
Mayer's guitar playing and music have gotten him more money and arse than I'll ever get, so there's that.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 10/13/22 at 10:41 am to
i'll give him this: his dating history is unmatched
Posted by Midget Death Squad
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Posted on 10/13/22 at 10:47 am to
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Mayer's guitar playing and music have gotten him more money and arse than I'll ever get, so there's that.



No doubt! I do like some of his songs, and I don't necessarily dislike his music overall. I just find it forgettable for the most part, but the skirts love it.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 10/13/22 at 11:35 am to
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My opinion: John Mayer is the Eric Clapton lite of our generation.



I mean, is this a slight to John Mayer? The guy didn't make his name by slaying at guitar, he did it by making soft rock pop ballads. His blues and Dead stuff seemed to be out of sheer interest in the music. The fact that he is considered a good guitar player is pretty impressive in itself.
This post was edited on 10/13/22 at 11:36 am
Posted by hogcard1964
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Posted on 10/13/22 at 11:57 am to
Your body is a taco stand.
Posted by LSUisKING
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Posted on 10/13/22 at 12:22 pm to
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I think he's good at being really proficient at blues major scales


What the hell is a blues major scale?

Please outline this abomination using numbers (and b and # where necessary).

ETA: John Mayer is a great guitarist. You just don't like him.

I don't like to listen to Dave Matthews, but his musicianship is out of this world. (See how easy that is?)
This post was edited on 10/13/22 at 12:30 pm
Posted by Macintosh504
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Posted on 10/13/22 at 12:34 pm to
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Layla is probably one of the most memorable guitar riffs ever written in rock history.


Duane Allman gave Clapton that riff
Posted by 14&Counting
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Posted on 10/13/22 at 12:38 pm to
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Your Body is a Wonderland


Ghey
Posted by finchmeister08
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Posted on 10/13/22 at 12:51 pm to
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I don't like to listen to Dave Matthews, but his musicianship is out of this world. (See how easy that is?)


i could make an argument that dave matthews is a better musician and guitar player than jason isbell.
This post was edited on 10/13/22 at 12:52 pm
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 10/13/22 at 12:54 pm to
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What the hell is a blues major scale?


The major blues scale is 1, 2,b3, 3, 5, 6 and the minor is 1, b3, 4, b5, 5, b7.
This post was edited on 10/13/22 at 12:56 pm
Posted by sorantable
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Posted on 10/13/22 at 1:14 pm to
The main thing to take from this thread is that Clapton is actually pretty overrated, and while Mayer is very talented, has never really been propped up as the guitar god that Clapton has been.

Also, Isbell is a great guitar player. Don’t let politics blind you.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 10/13/22 at 1:37 pm to
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The main thing to take from this thread is that Clapton is actually pretty overrated,

agreed.

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and while Mayer is very talented, has never really been propped up as the guitar god that Clapton has been.



+10000

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Also, Isbell is a great guitar player. Don’t let politics blind you.


phenomenal guitar player. what it boils down to is me basically saying I prefer ones playing over another and some people don't like that.
Posted by Midget Death Squad
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Posted on 10/13/22 at 1:49 pm to
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I don't like to listen to Dave Matthews, but his musicianship is out of this world



It's funny how people can't make this distinction. Someone can be a great musician and choreographer who just doesn't write songs that you like. DMB is not for me at all, but I respect his talent. I feel similar to JM, although I do like a few of his songs. Stop This Train is one of the all-time greats.
Posted by LSUisKING
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Posted on 10/13/22 at 1:53 pm to
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It's funny how people can't make this distinction. Someone can be a great musician and choreographer who just doesn't write songs that you like. DMB is not for me at all, but I respect his talent. I feel similar to JM, although I do like a few of his songs. Stop This Train is one of the all-time greats.


You have to be self-aware to make these distinctions... Not a whole lot of that in this thread.
Posted by jdd48
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Posted on 10/13/22 at 3:10 pm to
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It's funny how people can't make this distinction. Someone can be a great musician and choreographer who just doesn't write songs that you like. DMB is not for me at all, but I respect his talent.


I think Mayer is a hellacious player but I am not a fan of most any of his music. IMO Buckethead is one of the greatest musicians of all time, but many would disagree (though I could easily make the argument if all you think he does is shred, you've not come close to hearing his entire catalog).
Posted by Crow Pie
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Posted on 10/13/22 at 3:13 pm to
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Clapton is actually pretty overrated,
Yeah. The Yardbirds, John Mayhall, Cream, Blind Faith, the Beatles and the Allman Brothers all had it wrong. He was just a wannabe guitar player.
Posted by finchmeister08
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Posted on 10/13/22 at 3:27 pm to
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while Mayer is very talented, has never really been propped up as the guitar god that Clapton has been.


no one since the '80s have really been propped up as a great guitar player and i blame that on mid-to-late Gen-X through Gen-Z having a totally different taste in music.

Boomers have always believed the music from their day has always been supreme music compared to today's music.


What would you rather listen to?

Clapton, Hendrix, Skynyrd, Allman Brothers, AC/DC, Beatles, Rolling Stones, BB King

or

Anything considered "Bro-Country", Skater/Emo Rock Bands
Posted by MC123
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Posted on 10/13/22 at 6:14 pm to
Jason Isbell is a far better guitar player than the music he writes would indicate. Go watch any of his Instagram videos of him practicing/fricking around on guitar and it's pretty easy to see. He is a truly underrated guitarist, but he is not even in Mayer's realm. On the other hand, Mayer is a guitar virtuoso, but he is not in Jason Isbell's realm as a songwriter. I've seen them both live, and they're both likely douchebags IRL. my two cents
Posted by NoSaint
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Posted on 10/13/22 at 8:44 pm to
Clapton: great guitarist, perhaps slightly overrated if being judged against the idea that he’s probably considered amongst the the greatest ever and an all time top 5 or so iconic name. Anyone in that classification is probably getting a touch overrated generally.

Mayer: great guitarist. Probably fairly rated. Considered among the best of his generation but not among the best ever.

Isbell: underrated. Sneaky good as he never lets loose on his records. I think he is also amongst the best of the era as Mb notes he is both technically skilled but also does very well within the soul of a song when playing. Not saying he’s better than the best, just much better than most realize.
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