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re: Does Alanis Morissette know what irony is?

Posted on 10/14/26 at 2:35 pm to
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 10/14/26 at 2:35 pm to
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Wild. It was pretty widely mocked when it came out.


I was eight so that's probably why I missed it
This post was edited on 10/14/26 at 3:02 pm
Posted by wesfau
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Posted on 10/14/26 at 2:49 pm to
Ahhhhhhhhhh. That would explain it.
Posted by Rds21275
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Posted on 10/15/26 at 8:24 am to
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What say you?


You oughta know

Sorry...I had to.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 10/15/26 at 9:24 am to
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You oughta know

Sorry...I had to.


Touché
Posted by TigerNutts
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Posted on 10/15/26 at 10:36 am to
Here's the thing. If you take the clear definition of irony (contrast/gap between expectation and reality), then each one of her lines could possibly be argued as being ironic. Alternatively you could think on the scenario she presented and find irony in it.

Lyrics to songs have almost always required critical thought and/or expansion of the song's topic beyond just the words recited.

Add to it a banger of a melody, and this just isn't a song that should be nitpicked or bashed, especially when examined within the context of current popular music.
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 10/15/26 at 10:45 am to
One could say that made the song even more ironic than it ever could have been otherwise.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 10/15/26 at 11:03 am to
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Here's the thing. If you take the clear definition of irony (contrast/gap between expectation and reality), then each one of her lines could possibly be argued as being ironic. Alternatively you could think on the scenario she presented and find irony in it.


There are some that become maybe's, but going by the strict definition there are still quite a few that are hard no's.

A fly in your expensive drink is not ironic. That's just unfortunate. Rain is rain, doesn't matter if it's on your wedding day. Not taking good advice is a common occurrence. A traffic jam is kind of to be expected, it just sucks if you're already late.

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Add to it a banger of a melody, and this just isn't a song that should be nitpicked or bashed, especially when examined within the context of current popular music.


I think you're taking it a little too serious. It was just a fun exercise, I wasn't bashing it. I mentioned twice it's a great song.
Posted by jdd48
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Posted on 10/15/26 at 2:12 pm to
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The biggest irony is that she writes a song about irony and herself not know what irony is.

What say you?


She's Canadian. They're wierdos.
Posted by DoomGuy504
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Posted on 10/15/26 at 5:19 pm to
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Is it ironic she wrote a song called Ironic that isn't about irony at all?



Growing up we always figured that was the point.
Posted by TigerNutts
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Posted on 10/15/26 at 5:20 pm to
Sorry it came off as I was taking it too seriously. This is just a common gripe. I think most of us who were around when the song came out have heard this parroted a lot.

Think about your examples, though. You bought an expensive glass of of Chardonnay expecting it to be delicious and take you troubles away, yet this glass of expensive wine now has a fly in it, is ruined, and now is a source of your troubles. Somewhat ironic?

Same scenario with the wedding day. It’s supposed to be the happiest day of the brides life, but because of the rain, it will likely be the worst up until that point. Ironic that the wedding day could be labeled as that considering what it was expected to be.
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